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1 posted on 05/16/2002 8:03:51 AM PDT by callisto
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We can't have so many people bashing Bush for what he may or may not have explicitly known before 911 without a reminder of exactly who was in charge for 8 prior years and the damage they committed to our nation's security.
2 posted on 05/16/2002 8:06:00 AM PDT by callisto
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bingo
5 posted on 05/16/2002 8:12:28 AM PDT by linn37
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Newstrolls mentioned this on Sept 14th How's that for timely?
7 posted on 05/16/2002 8:23:13 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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So you're blaming Clinton for not being in power on 9/11 and stopping the terrorists who were funded by Bin Laden?

That's a bit much.

8 posted on 05/16/2002 8:28:40 AM PDT by Vladiator
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bump
12 posted on 05/16/2002 9:36:59 AM PDT by rwfromkansas
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Where is the condemnation for ex-President Clinton, Congress and the IDIOTIC press who refused to follow up on the OBVIOUS terrorist act that brought down an airliner out of Kennedy airport in October, 1999?
The entire world was alerted to the danger of Osama bin Laden's aviation terror schemes when his man took over the controls in the cockpit and deliberately crashed EgyptAir 990 into the Atlantic!
Clinton and his state department spokesmen were on the air within minutes of the plane's disappearance to LIE to us and claim that whatever happened it was NOT terrorism. That was the big CLUE - Clinton the Liar said it wasn't a terrorist act bringing down a plane.
He KNEW. He LIED. He did nothing. CONGRESS (including Gephardt) did NOTHING!
The media reported nothing but White House and FCC press releases.
15 posted on 05/16/2002 9:55:42 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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I wonder if this White House is FINALLY getting the clue that their "new tone" and "move on" strategy with regards
to the previous administrations crimes has only served to embolden the criminal RAT party all the more.
I hope they like being blamed for the sink emperors mistakes....but they only have their "compassionate" selves to blame.
17 posted on 05/16/2002 10:05:19 AM PDT by MamaLucci
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bttt
18 posted on 05/16/2002 10:39:11 AM PDT by Free the USA
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Good post. Clinton commissioned a team, headed by Algore, to look into Airline Security re. Terrorism...a committee studied and wrote up many expensive recommendations...and the airlines balked (see related info on Daschle's wife when researching). Instead, the DNC received big $$$$ from the airlines before election '96 and the report went away. Clinton, Gore, Daschle.....all knew the extent of our security weaknesses re. the airlines.

On Dec. 19th, 2000, the day after the electoral college elected George Bush...Clinton went to the UN and insisted (against Kofi's wishes!) that they threaten the Taliban one more time....giving them 30 days 'til further sanctions would be placed on the Afghani people if they didn't hand over Osama. Why would Clinton egg on the Taliban and set a time limit of Jan. 19th, inaugeration eve, for the deadline? What kind of a person would put his personal vengence ahead of the nation's security?

19 posted on 05/16/2002 10:57:34 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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Bojinka.

The big DOT that the media is still ignoring today.

And Ari Fleischer's comments today showed absolutely no sense of any of this in today's WH press briefing.

Keep looking, leftist media.

24 posted on 05/16/2002 12:23:31 PM PDT by flamefront
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BUMP
26 posted on 05/16/2002 1:30:03 PM PDT by truthandlife
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Grab/download these links before they vanish!

What the Clinton adminstration did do according to the reports was extensive.. Following the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, the new president sent stringent anti-terrorism legislation to Congress as part of his first crime bill, including new deportation powers and a federal death penalty for terrorists.

In 1996, Mr. Clinton once again sent anti-terror legislation to the Republican-controlled congress yet key parts were not passed by Congress. Their reasons were that they felt the parts infringed on civil liberties. Interestingly, those parts not passed in 1996 were passed after 9/11. (http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/30/clinton.terrorism/) (http://www.cdt.org/policy/terrorism/cnss_habeas.html)

Also in 1996, President Clinton signed Airport Security measures into law (http://www.cnn.com/US/9610/09/faa/) based upon wide-ranging security measures recommended by Vice President Al Gore's aviation security commission (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A17818-2001Dec9?language=printer). Interestingly, key senators on the Senate Aviation Subcommittee shot down mandated changes recommended by Gore and the White House and instead urged "further study." (Eight of the nine Republicans on the subcommittee had received contributions from the major airlines.)

"Among those attacking the Gore Commission recommendations, incidentally, was the New Republic, which noted that "two billion dollars a year to guard against terrorism and sabotage" would amount to "a cost per life saved of well over $300 million." The cost of such libertarian dogma must now be measured in thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars." (salon.com)

On 20 August 1998, President Clinton amended Executive Order 12947 to add Usama Bin Laden and his key associates to the list of terrorists, thus blocking their US assets--including property and bank accounts--and prohibiting all US financial transactions with them. The Washington Post, among others, reported. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/eafricabombing/stories/strikes082398.htm)

The United States conducted a bombing run -- Operation Infinite Reach -- against bin Laden's facilities there on 20 August 1998.

President Clinton took additional steps as outlined in this executive order dated July 1999 (http://www.afghanradio.com/special/us_sanction_july41999.htm) and as announced in the world media - such as Radio Free Europe (http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/1999/07/F.RU.990707135633.html)

This second report, known as the Hart-Rudman report, was completed in late 2000 and submitted to the Bush administration in January, 2001. But the Bush administration officials told former Sens. Gary Hart, D-Colo., and Warren Rudman, R-N.H., that they preferred instead to put aside the recommendations issued in the January report by the U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century. Instead, the White House announced in May that it would have Vice President Dick Cheney study the potential problem of domestic terrorism -- which the bipartisan group had already spent two and a half years studying -- while assigning responsibility for dealing with the issue to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, headed by former Bush campaign manager Joe Allbaugh. (http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/09/12/bush/)At the same time, he proposed to cut FEMA's budget by $200 million. Bush said that day that Cheney would direct a government-wide review on managing the consequences of a domestic attack, and "I will periodically chair a meeting of the National Security Council to review these efforts." Neither Cheney's review nor Bush's took place.

Remember John O'Neill ... He died for you ... http://www.rememberjohn.com
28 posted on 05/16/2002 2:33:49 PM PDT by ahmedtousay1
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05-16-02

HILLARY CLINTON SHOULD BE CAREFUL WHAT SHE WISHES FOR. . .

THE REAL PROXIMATE CAUSE OF 9/11

 

In a Senate speech, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Democrat of New York, called on Mr. Bush to "come before the American people at the earliest possible time to answer the questions so many New Yorkers and Americans are asking."

The New York Times, Democrats Say Bush Must Give Full Disclosure



May 17, 2002

Democrats Say Bush Must Give Full Disclosure

By ALISON MITCHELL

WASHINGTON, May 16 ó After months of unstinting support for President Bush's handling of the war on terror, leading Congressional Democrats changed course today and demanded full disclosure of what Mr. Bush was told last summer about the danger of terrorist hijackings. They also called for a broad public inquiry into what the government knew before Sept. 11.

The sharp questions about possible intelligence lapses and about the vigor of the administration's response to terrorist warnings came a day after the White House announced, eight months after the terror attacks, that President Bush had been alerted by the Central Intelligence Agency last summer to the danger of hijackings by terrorists affiliated with Osama bin Laden.

Even some Republicans questioned the government's response to information gathered last summer.

"I think it should have been acted upon, and it wasn't," said Senator Richard C. Shelby of Alabama, the ranking Republican on the Senate intelligence committee.

Mr. Shelby was particularly critical of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, saying officials there had been "asleep."

But Democrats were the fiercest. For the first time since Sept. 11, the bipartisan unity over how Mr. Bush has conducted the war on terror appeared to be dissolving in sharp questions, accusations and partisan finger-pointing.

Senator Tom Daschle of South Dakota, the majority leader, said he was "gravely concerned" and asked, "Why did it take eight months for us to receive this information?" Mr. Daschle added that the president should immediately hand the Congressional intelligence committees "the entire briefing that he was given" in August.

Democrats were also seeking an F.B.I. memorandum warning that many Middle Eastern men were training at American flight schools.

Representative Richard A. Gephardt, the House minority leader, said, "I think what we have to do now is to find out what the president, what the White House, knew about the events leading up to 9/11, when they knew it and, most importantly, what was done about it at that time."

Mr. Gephardt, of Missouri, said the long-planned investigation by the intelligence committees was no longer enough. "I don't think this can just be a closed-door secret intelligence investigation," he said. (The joint committee is planning to hold both public and closed hearings.)

In a Senate speech, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Democrat of New York, called on Mr. Bush to "come before the American people at the earliest possible time to answer the questions so many New Yorkers and Americans are asking."

Most of the Republicans who spoke publicly today rallied around Mr. Bush, arguing that the information he had received in August in a briefing paper several pages long was too generalized to act on. They said the Democrats were playing election-year politics.

Senator Christopher S. Bond, Republican of Missouri, accused the two Democratic leaders of an "effort to blow this up into a scandal."

"Their unspoken implication," Mr. Bond said, "is that the president knew these attacks were coming and did nothing. That is an insult to the U.S. intelligence community, to the president and the American people."

Senator Trent Lott, Republican of Mississippi, said in a Senate speech tonight that "there is nothing more despicable ó and `despicable' is a tame word ó in American politics than to insinuate the president of the United States knew that an attack on the United States was imminent and did nothing to stop it."

"For us to be talking like our enemy is George W. Bush and not Osama bin Laden, that's not right," Mr. Lott added.

But Democrats, who until now have been reluctant to speak out against Mr. Bush on foreign policy, said it was their duty to seek information.

"We have a right and responsibility to speak out," said Senator John Kerry, a Massachusetts Democrat who may run for president. "Preventing another Sept. 11 undoubtedly requires understanding our past vulnerabilities."

The questions over what the administration knew ignited a battle over whether to create a special commission to look into the events surrounding the Sept. 11 attacks.

Senators Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut, and John McCain, Republican of Arizona, have long argued for an independent commission. They said they would move quickly to try to create one in an attachment to other legislation, perhaps as early as next week. Mr. Daschle suggested he might support the idea.

Mr. Lieberman, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee in 2000, pointed to an array of warnings to intelligence agencies last summer that have recently been made public.

"If there had been one person receiving all that information, would it have been possible to prevent Sept. 11?" he asked. "That's the question an independent commission has to answer so we never have to ask it again."

Senator Robert G. Torricelli, Democrat of New Jersey, who has also pushed hard for a commission, noted that Vice President Dick Cheney repeatedly pressed Congress last fall to avoid an investigation while troops were in Afghanistan. In light of recent disclosures, Mr. Torricelli said, "that argument just became extremely disingenuous."

One dispute that simmered across the day was about just how much members of Congress knew last August about intelligence warnings.

After Ari Fleischer, the White House spokesman, pointed to an assertion by Representative Porter J. Goss of Florida, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, that the Congressional panels had been given similar information, Senate Democrats quickly contested the remark.

Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, said that the committees were given more general information than the president received last August and that it did not include references to hijackings.

Mr. Daschle, at Mr. Graham's side at a news conference, said, "There is no one in Congress who had that information."

Mr. Goss said all the information in the president's intelligence briefing had been given to his committee as well, but over time. The information, he said, included "no specificity as to time, place, date or method."

The senior Democrat on the intelligence committee, Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, who is also the No. 2 Democrat in the House leadership, joined Mr. Goss at his news conference and agreed that some of the information in the president's memorandum had been available to the lawmakers.

But, Ms. Pelosi added, the president's briefing paper had three pieces of specific information that day in August that the intelligence committees had learned over several months. That, she said, "raised it to a different level" and needed to be part of the Congressional investigation into Sept. 11.


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34 posted on 05/17/2002 6:57:25 AM PDT by Mia T
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Sorry Hillary, your sign should have read "My Husband Knew"
37 posted on 10/15/2002 10:27:11 PM PDT by Bugbear
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Uh, the guy who masterminded the successful 2001 WTC attack, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, was a close associate of Ramzi Yousef, the guy who organized the unsuccessful 1993 attempt to topple the WTC. We had eight years to pick this guy up, and we didn't do it. Talk about warnings. Talk about failure. That's about as bad as it gets.
38 posted on 10/15/2002 10:33:39 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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Bill was occupied at the time ....sinks, cigars, and women screaming at the gates
39 posted on 10/15/2002 10:43:31 PM PDT by woofie
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The Clinton FBI was in full possession of all the frightening facts on Bojinka, but did nothing. Instead, as Reed Irvine revealed, the bureau assured Congress that everything was under control.


They were to busy trying to take away gun rights (Waco and Ruby Ridge) from American citizens and pushing communism through America's legal system to pay attention to other matters.
And then, September 11, 2001. All cover up after that.
40 posted on 03/27/2003 5:25:47 AM PST by wgeorge2001
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