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To: Roscoe
The Second Amendment was a restriction on Congressional powers.

Are you implying that the Second Amendment was NOT a restriction on government -- that the Executive and Judicial branches could violate "the Peoples" 2nd Amendment Right? Is that what you are saying?

323 posted on 05/16/2002 3:02:21 PM PDT by BillofRights
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To: BillofRights
That is exactly what he has been saying. - He just won't admit it.
325 posted on 05/16/2002 3:08:18 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: BillofRights
Look, the U.S. Constitution set up the new post-Articles of Confederation, Federal Government - not the States. The States existed prior to it. The Constitution defined the Federal Government's powers in its body and outlined some obvious restrictions upon FEDERAL power in the Bill of Rights. It holds no authority over state governments and never assumed to, until the incongrous 14th Amendment.

The 2nd Amendment and the Bill of Rights was a restriction on government - but on the Federal government only. That's why the 1st Amendment says specifically "Congress shall make no law..." and that's why official State religions existed AFTER the ratification of the U.S. Constitution. It's all part of the original plan of sovereign states and competition between the states. If your state is infringing upon your right to keep and bear arms, you wouldn't go to the Federal Government for help (as if they would help - and it isn't their jurisdiction anyway) you would either change the laws in your state, move to a different state, or overthrow the tyrannical government in your state. Unfortunately, the 14th Amendment and its misguided application has thwarted the whole original intent of our Federal form of government.

I agree with Paul Grant's defense except that I feel he should have made that defense based upon the Colorado Constitution, not the U.S. Constitution. I highly respect Grant and Stanley and you - we just disagree on this one point.

Side note: Paul Grant will be defending my Brother-in-law in the near future in what may prove to be another high-profile event in the Denver area. Stay tuned.

331 posted on 05/16/2002 3:19:56 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: BillofRights
[The Second Amendment was a restriction on Congressional powers.]

Are you implying that the Second Amendment was NOT a restriction on government -- that the Executive and Judicial branches could violate "the Peoples" 2nd Amendment Right?

The Executive and Judicial branches aren't supposed to make law. Read a book.

481 posted on 05/17/2002 12:12:36 AM PDT by Roscoe
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