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To: Zon
Let me guess what line of response will be akin to...

You guessed wrong.

"The Second Amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress." -- US Supreme Court, U.S. v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875), Presser v. State of Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)

286 posted on 05/16/2002 2:06:29 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
In effect, you are spamming this discussion, and FR with that same inane 'Cruikshank/Presser' quote.
We have all seen it now dozens of times, when you post it as a 'reply' to virtually ANY comment made about the 2nd amendment.

I understand there is a new policy at FR, outlined here by JR:

If someone asks to be taken off your ping list (or otherwise asks you not to ping, bump or reply to him) then you should comply with his wishes. That would be common courtesy. If you continue pinging the person after he asked you not to, and the person reports it via an abuse report, then, yes, you will probably hear from us.
99 posted on 5/10/02 2:04 PM Pacific by Jim Robinson

My question, roscoe. -- If a group of us asked that you cease your harrassing replies to us, in your 'style' mentioned above , would you comply?

313 posted on 05/16/2002 2:51:19 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Roscoe; tpaine; billofrights; zon
Constitution of the State of Colorado
ARTICLE II - Bill of Rights Art. II - Bill of Rights

Section 3. Inalienable rights. All persons have certain natural, essential and inalienable rights, among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; of acquiring, possessing and protecting property; and of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness.

Section 6. Equality of justice. Courts of justice shall be open to every person, and a speedy remedy afforded for every injury to person, property or character; and right and justice should be administered without sale, denial or delay.

Section 13. Right to bear arms. The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.

You all know that I firmly believe that that Constitution and the Bill of Rights only limits Congress and the rest of the Federal Government from infringing upon our rights and does not limite (except where specifically mentioned) the several states. Therefore, your State's Constitution must include limitations upon your state and local governments to ensure they do not infringe upon your rights.

That being said, I do believe that the above cited sections of the Colorado Constitution more than sufficiently make Stanley's affirmative defense for him. Denver's laws can NOT infringe upon the rights guaranteed to Stanley in the Colorado Constitution. Too bad Mr. Grant didn't obey the Judge's inappropriate gag order on the U.S. Constitution by offering an affirmative defense based upon the Colorado Constitution. But then again, he probably knew he was going to lose this one and that the Judge was setting up the perfect grounds for appeal by precluding the U.S. Constitution.

320 posted on 05/16/2002 2:58:05 PM PDT by Spiff
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