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And These Are Republicans?
Wall St. Journal ^ | May 16, 2002 | STEPHEN MOORE

Posted on 05/16/2002 1:02:18 AM PDT by The Raven

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:46:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Despite the fact that the Republicans control the White House, the House of Representatives, and 30 governorships, the nation is now in the midst of the biggest government spending spree since LBJ. Incredibly, the domestic social welfare budget has expanded more in just two years ($96 billion) under George W. Bush than in Bill Clinton's first six years in office ($51 billion).


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>>All of this is reminiscent of the old Reagan quip that to say that Congress spends like drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors.

Who's going to pay for this?

1 posted on 05/16/2002 1:02:19 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
And These Are Republicans?

More evidence that there's really no difference between Republicans and Democrats. It's the one-party system in charge, and you'll always get the same results no matter which face is forward.

2 posted on 05/16/2002 1:56:26 AM PDT by Quila
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To: The Raven
Let's look at the $96 BILLION the article mentioned and maybe put that figure in a little different perspective.

I don't think most people would mind living in a bran-spankin-new $250,000 house that was fully paid for with cash.



Well, you could buy 4 of those houses with cash for every $1,000,000 tax dollars.


Another way of saying "BILLION" is one-thousand-million dollars. Thats 1000 x $1,000,000.


4000 of these to every billion tax dollars

So that means every billion dollars could buy 4000 bran-spankin-new $250,000 houses. You could make a nice town full of houses out of that.



384,000 of these to 96 thousand million dollars

Ninety six thousand million dollars would buy 384,000 bran-spankin-new $250,000 houses. You could make a nice small city full of houses out of that.


That's 384,000 of those nice, fully paid, bran-spankin-new $250,000 houses EVERY YEAR for that social welfare budget. And that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to federal spending. Pleasant thought, isn't it?

3 posted on 05/16/2002 1:57:37 AM PDT by agitator
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To: agitator
You PLAY ALOT of monopoly dont you?
4 posted on 05/16/2002 2:01:43 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: The Raven
"Who's going to pay for this?"

American taxpaying slaves.



Bush promises to cut farm bill

Reversing Course, The Real George W. Bush Signs Bill Raising Farm Subsidies


Congress Inaction On Debt Ceiling Could Disrupt July Social Security Payments!

U.S. Official Pushes for Soviet Debt Write-Off

Caring About The Future - The Greatest Generation


Bush Was Warned bin Laden Wanted to Hijack Planes
"The White House said tonight that President Bush had been warned by American intelligence agencies in early August that Osama bin Laden was seeking to hijack aircraft but that the warnings did not contemplate the possibility that the hijackers would turn the planes into guided missiles for a terrorist attack."

CATASTROPHIC INTELLIGENCE FAILURE - Reed Irvine - "In 1995, the CIA and the FBI learned that Osama bin Laden was planning to hijack U.S. airliners and use them as bombs to attack important targets in the U.S. This scheme was called Project Bojinka."

London Report: Bin Laden May Hit New York, Stock Exchange - **** October 5, 1999 **** - [Free Republic Thread]

London Report: Bin Laden May Hit New York, Stock Exchange

Newsmax.com - Inside Cover
Tuesday October 5, 1999 - 9:30 AM

The London-based Terrorism and Security Monitor is reporting that US intelligence sources are worried that terrorist Osama Bin Laden may be planning a major terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

US sources are said "to be particularly concerned about some kind of attack on New York, and they have recommended stepped-up security at the New York Stock Exchange and the Federal Reserve.

U.S. Authorities believe Bin Laden may have acquired chemical weapons.

Reports of Bin Laden’s activities come on the heels of heightened agitation among Muslims against the West.

Yossef Bodansky, staff director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare says "There are rumblings throughout the Islamic community right now. There’s a lot of movement and talk. It’s like a volcano just before the explosion.”

All Rights Reserved © NewsMax.com
[End of Transcript]

We’ve Hit the Targets’
"Could the bombers have been stopped? NEWSWEEK has learned that while U.S. intelligence received no specific warning, the state of alert had been high during the past two weeks, and a particularly urgent warning may have been received the night before the attacks, causing some top Pentagon brass to cancel a trip. Why that same information was not available to the 266 people who died aboard the four hijacked commercial aircraft may become a hot topic on the Hill."

THE FAILURE OF U.S. INTELLIGENCE AND THE ROAD AHEAD FOR AMERICA


Why Democrats should draft George W. Bush in 2004

The surest way to bust this economy is to increase the role and the size of the federal government."
George W. Bush - Source: Presidential debate, Boston MA Oct 3, 2000.

Gore offers an old and tired approach. He offers a new federal spending program to nearly every voting bloc. He expands entitlements, without reforms to sustain them. 285 new or expanded programs, and $2 trillion more in new spending. Spending without discipline, spending without priorities, and spending without an end. Al Gore’s massive spending would mean slower growth and higher taxes. And it could mean an end to this nation’s prosperity."
George W. Bush Source: Speech in Minneapolis, Minnesota Nov 1, 2000.

"People need more money in their pocket, as far as I’m concerned."
George W. Bush - The Tampa (FL) Tribune Oct 26, 2000.

"I think the economy has grown really in spite of government. This is an incredible period of time when productivity has been enhanced, not because of any great initiative of government, but because of the ability for entrepreneurs to stake a new claim."
George W. Bush - Source: Ronald Brownstein, LA Times Aug 13, 2000

I was deeply concerned about the drift toward a more powerful federal government. I was particularly outraged by two pieces of legislation, the Natural Gas Policy Act and the Fuel Use Act. It seemed to me that elite central planners were determining the course of our nation. Allowing the government to dictate the price of natural gas was a move toward European-style socialism. If the federal government was going to take over the natural gas business, what would it set its sights on next?"
George W. Bush - Source: “A Charge to Keep”, p.172-173 Dec 9, 1999

Un El día En El la vida de Jorge W. La arbusto

"Immigration is not a problem to be solved, it is the sign of a successful nation."
George W. Bush - Source: Speech in Washington, D.C. Jun 26, 2000.

"In September of last year, I welcomed my good friend, the President of Mexico, to the White House. Standing together on the South Lawn, President Fox and I spoke of building a hemisphere of freedom and prosperity and progress."


Foolin' them is easy isn't it? Heck yes.

A UNICEF-funded book being passed out at the United Nations Child Summit encourages children to engage in sexual activities with other minors and with homosexuals and animals


Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick, not once, but twice

"That’s why I’m for instant background checks at gun shows. I’m for trigger locks."
George W. Bush - Source: St. Louis debate Oct 17, 2000


5 posted on 05/16/2002 2:10:31 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: The Raven
I much prefer the Rats in charge than tax and spend Republicans. The latter are an insult to everything conservatives believe in.
6 posted on 05/16/2002 2:16:29 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
"I much prefer the Rats in charge than tax and spend Republicans. The latter are an insult to everything conservatives believe in."

It used to be that the GOP fought harder for principle when they were in the minority. Now I'm not so sure. This is disgusting.

7 posted on 05/16/2002 2:29:52 AM PDT by Badray
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To: agitator
That's a $250,000 house? Here in Portland, Oregon, you'd pay $500,000 for that house. I want to live where you live!
8 posted on 05/16/2002 2:29:58 AM PDT by Calico Cat
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To: Reagan Man
Are these the Republicans that you are so proud of? The ones who follow the principles of the party - like smaller government and lower taxes?
9 posted on 05/16/2002 2:36:38 AM PDT by Badray
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To: Uncle Bill
I get the point - you hate Bush. Fine. Explain to me, how from the following item in your list: A UNICEF-funded book being passed out at the United Nations Child Summit encourages children to engage in sexual activities with other minors and with homosexuals and animals is Bush's fault? Explain to me how an article dated: Tuesday October 5, 1999 - 9:30 AM is part of the Bush Presidency and therefore Bush's fault?

Its one thing to dislike the policies of a leader, but piling on with irrelevancies to "prove" your point is ridiculous. --
Unless that is the point you are trying to make (ie, that you are ridiculous and your points lack coherence.) ...

10 posted on 05/16/2002 2:45:28 AM PDT by Utopia
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To: The Raven
"I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt." -Thomas Jefferson-

I found the following web site a couple of months ago. What an eye opener it was.

http://mwhodges.home.att.net/hodges.htm

11 posted on 05/16/2002 3:09:17 AM PDT by willa
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To: The Raven
may severely demoralize conservative voters

I'm becoming demoralized.

I also note that the threads that may be critical of President Bush seem to attract fewer and fewer Bushophiles posting in his defense. They now seem mostly to talk to themselves on such threads as "A Day in the Life..." Have you noticed that? Are they perhaps getting just a tad demoralized as well?

12 posted on 05/16/2002 3:40:58 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: Calico Cat
Just be happy you are in Portland. In L.A. that's 2MIL at least...depending on the zip code and the size of the lot...
13 posted on 05/16/2002 4:29:06 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: The Raven
Despite the fact that the Republicans control the White House, the House of Representatives, and 30 governorships, the nation is now in the midst of the biggest government spending spree since LBJ. Incredibly, the domestic social welfare budget has expanded more in just two years ($96 billion) under George W. Bush than in Bill Clinton's first six years in office ($51 billion).

If big govt. is an ichon of liberalism, isn't it logical to assume that anyone who promotes big govt. is a liberal?

14 posted on 05/16/2002 4:33:06 AM PDT by Kobyashi1942
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>>"I much prefer the Rats in charge than tax and spend Republicans.

Let's not get carried away, now. - That's the wrong direction...how about Libetarians?

15 posted on 05/16/2002 4:36:17 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: agitator; Incindiary; Mercuria; Starfan; Firebrand; Dutchy; Little Bill; Electric Strawberry
Where do I sign up???
16 posted on 05/16/2002 6:14:15 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: Uncle Bill
What...didn't someone get their muffler???
17 posted on 05/16/2002 6:15:06 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: agitator
That house is $400,000 in Mass., in some areas $450,000, I built the exact same thing in 1977 for $42,000.
18 posted on 05/16/2002 6:51:22 AM PDT by Little Bill
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To: RJCogburn
As conservatives we have to get past the idea that Bush is violating stated principles. He is not. Bush does not believe that America's relationship with government needs to be radically altered. He believes that government should remain the primary instrument for social and economic welfare, and that $2 trillion per year is not too much to ask of the American taxpayer.

And let's face it - right now this philosophy is the belief system of the Republican Party. No one in power is really challenging him. By 1999 the Republican Party was an empty vessel, without any new ideas or innovations among the top leadership. Their entire strategy was to wait for George W. Bush to come along and save them. Bush did, and filled that empty vessel with his own ideas. I can't blame him for that.

Anyone who is surprised by this didn't listen to Bush's campaign rhetoric or watch how he did business in Texas. Bush is not interested in cutting spending, or even in holding it steady, and he never claimed to be. He may have mouthed a few platitudes about fiscal responsibility, but he never promised to do anything responsible save cut taxes. He just quietly spends enormous amounts of taxpayer money as a matter of government policy.

This is still more evidence of the extreme disconnect that exists between the Republican leadership and the conservative grassroots that are the hands and feet of the party. Quite simply, the Republican leadership in Washington (and in state capitols across America) is very uncomfortable with the principles of the those that put them in office.

19 posted on 05/16/2002 8:21:39 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Kobyashi1942
bump
20 posted on 05/16/2002 10:12:28 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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