View for sale: $30,000 New owner of a lake fences it off when homeowners wouldn't pay.

St. Petersburg Times ^ | May 14, 2002 | ROBERT FARLEY

[Protagoras]

with the godless libertarians.

Please clarify this comment. Are all libertarians godless? Is anyone godless, if even they do not believe in God? If there is no God, is everyone godless? Are you Godly and libertarians un-Godly? And finally, if you know anything at all about Roscoe, how could you conclude that he has anything whatever to do with God?

[Rebelbase]

Good fences make good neighbors. Pink fences make people mad. Yes, this guy has the right to do it, and yes he is an a$$hole for treating people this way.

[Lazamataz]

Let me clarify -- there is no law, but there is a tendency of the court to look on these prior-use easements favorably.

The best and most equitable solution would be to condemn the property via Eminent Domain laws and make it a public park.

[sakic]

This is as simple a case as I've ever seen. The guy did absolutely zero wrong.

[Area51]

After reading every post to this thread I now have complete understanding how such Slugs like Bill and Hillary Clinton could ever get elected. Absolutly discusting. If they property owners wanted LAKE FRONT property THEY SHOULD HAVE PURCHASED IT! Trying to stop what someone else is doing on HIS LEGALLY OWNED land is nothing short of Communism. It is obvious this mindset is what the past twenty years of Suburb explosion has created. You buy a freaking lot and demand to control the whole County.

[Lazamataz]

And finally, if you know anything at all about Roscoe, how could you conclude that he has anything whatever to do with G-d?

G-d told me.

[tacticalogic]

Please clarify this comment.

Sorry, forgot the sarcasm tags. It was a reference to Kev's twisted foaming-at-the-mouth hyperbole that passes for discourse in his world.

[Sloth]

No, he is offering to remove the fence for $30k.

Why do you persist with this outright lie? He is not offering to remove the fence, he is selling the property so the homeowners can remove the fence if they so desire.

[Protagoras]

I know now, I missed the middle part of the thread, even I get too busy to do this sometimes. :-)

What do you think of the access by easement theory? Not the view theory (absurd and quickly dismissed in any court IMO) but the access theory?

The guy is clearly a swine but the problem shouldn't be "solved" in the usual way IMO.

[Spin]

In case anyone is interested, here is the guy's e-mail address, dc@probatebuyer.com. Website is www.probatebuyer.com.

[freedomcrusader]

YOU ARE WRONG. From the article:

The speculator, 44-year-old Don Connolly of Valrico, now is offering to sell the land behind each of the homes for $30,000 per homeowner.

[Protagoras]

Sorry, forgot the sarcasm tags. It was a reference to Kev's twisted foaming-at-the-mouth hyperbole that passes for discourse in his world.

You are forgiven my son. :-) < /Sarcasm>

The only time I ever got in trouble with Laz (that I know of) was when I didn't recognise his use of the vehicle. I learned that I am poor at recognising it.

[Sloth]

These people who advocate violence in order to gain the free access to that person's property are NO different from the ghetto dwellers who are seen running down the street with a stolen TV on the shoulder after looting a store during a riot.

Big Bump.

[Lazamataz]

The guy is clearly a swine but the problem shouldn't be "solved" in the usual way IMO.

Agreed. I imagine the county will be jumping up and down ready to condemn his land. He gets his money back out but loses the chance to profit obscenely versus a bunch of retirees.

[NittanyLion]

The houses were not built specifically to deny him the right to his view from a boat.

So, if he claims his fence was not built specifically to deny them a view to his lake (perhaps he built it for liability reasons), then by your argument he can continue. Right?

[bvw]

Sure. If, however, you make the fence of concertina wire in a neighborhood where many children play, I'd file a criminal complaint agin you.

[TC Rider]

I recall a case in the late 70s back in Colorado Springs. A developer built a line of homes along a ridge with a view of Pikes Peak.

There was one lot with a bit of frontage that ended at the cliffs edge. The developer offered it to the homeowners on either side at a bargain. They both refused to buy.

One homeowner told the developer, "Why should I pay you for it, when I can use it for free?". He thought it would be impossible to ever build on the lot. ha ha

The builder then proceeded to build a huge house on stilts out over the edge of the cliff. The new home blocked about half of the view of the smart@ss homeowner, who then sued.

The court found for the developer.

[Lazamataz]

The only time I ever got in trouble with Laz (that I know of) was when I didn't recognise his use of the vehicle.

Heh heh heh heh.... I run people over with that vehicle all the time. I am SarcasmBoy, with a flapping blue cape, and a big red S on my tunic.