[#3Fan]

open borders = idiot

I've never seen a congressman named open borders. What state is he from?

So if Bush hadn't proposed that alien workers be legalized, they would all be in their former country by now? Just exactly what changed under that proposal anyway? It seems you people are having tantrums over something which had a net effect of 0.

[Sabertooth]

So if Bush hadn't proposed that alien workers be legalized, they would all be in their former country by now? Just exactly what changed under that proposal anyway? It seems you people are having tantrums over something which had a net effect of 0.

Actually, it's in a large part do to the outrage against his proposal that Bush's Section 245(i) Amnesty got killed in the Senate and had the net effect of zero that you mention.

You understand that the "zero effect" wasn't what Bush wanted, don't you?

BTW, your first comment "So if Bush hadn't proposed that alien workers be legalized, they would all be in their former country by now?" sort of deliberately and disingenuously misses the point...

The purpose of stopping Bush's Section 245(i) mini-Amnesty wasn't that the Illegals would then leave, it was to uphold the law, our sovereignty, and to prevent more foreigners from being encouraged to become the next wave of Illegals.

Stopping Bush on this was a small battle in the war against Illegals.

[Tuor]

It seems you people are having tantrums over something which had a net effect of 0.

And it seems as if you are being disingenuous. The question isn't over whether or not they are here, but whether or not they are here *legally*: whether their presence is breaking the laws of this country (which it is). By signing this law, Bush taking steps to legitimize the presence of illegal workers in this country, but I imagine you already knew that.

Tuor