Sen. Schumer: "...there is an individual right to bear arms..."

Schumer Website ^ | May 8, 2002 | Chuckie Schumer

[Lazamataz]

I still won't own a Colt because of Donald Zilkha's donations to Chucky.

Zilkha was CEO for under six months. Stuff like this got him canned. Colt is okay.

[facedown]

ping

[Noumenon]

ACW II - let's roll.

[Dick Bachert]

[cinFLA]

Your headline is misleading. It implies that Schumer made the statement!

[Djarum]

But I'm also of the view that there are limits on those rights. Just as you can't falsely shout fire in a crowded movie theater, you can put restrictions on who can own guns and how, when, and where they may be possessed.

This is a stupid argument. You CAN yell fire in a movie theatre. If there is no fire you will be prosecuted AFTER the crime. Chuckie wants gun owners persecuted because they MIGHT commit a crime, and that is an infringement on the 2nd Amendment.

[yendu bwam]

Guns in the hands of private citizens are the ultimate defense against tyranny.

[Djarum]

Your headline is misleading. It implies that Schumer made the statement!

"And while some might not believe in the second amendment, I believe in the second amendment. I do not agree with those that think the second amendment should be interpreted almost in a nonexistent way just for militias, and then we should broadly interpret all the others. But just like you can't scream fire in a crowded theater--that's a limitation on our first amendment rights--there are limitations on the second amendment as well, and some of uh, my friends believe there should be no limitations, and that's where I disagree with them."
-Sen. Charles E. Schumer, 1/17/01, Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the nomination of Mr. Ashcroft

[Bagehot]

Zilkha gave money to Schumer??? That's like Patricia Ireland giving money to the Eagle Forum.

[Charles Martel]

Zilkha was CEO for under six months. Stuff like this got him canned. Colt is okay.

I knew there had been changes, as witnessed by Colt's much narrower product line. Is Zilkha still involved as an investor? He did appear to give money to every doctrinaire liberal candidate.

[cinFLA]

Sorry. I just read the whole story. Schumer is trying to have his cake and eat it too!

[colorado tanker]

As I read Chuckie's press release he is in favor of both the gun rights and gun control positions. Don't you just love politicians?

[Lazamataz]

Zilkha gave money to Schumer??? That's like Patricia Ireland giving money to the Eagle Forum.

Zilkha was a lifelong liberal who decided to try to attack the fort from within. As soon as he tipped his hand, various elements inside Colt coalesced and forced his sorry ass out.

[bvw]

ACW is a perennial not I, II, III, etc. Been fought in the US since before the Revolution, before the Great Awakening. It was fought in Jamestown, in Plymouth, in New Amsterdam, New Sweden, in Franklin, in Acadia.

[Lazamataz]

Is Zilkha still involved as an investor?

He may be. No one can stop him there. But his attempt to Trojan Horse the company failed.

He did appear to give money to every doctrinaire liberal candidate.

Of course. He was a lifelong liberal who attempted to destroy a gun company by running into it's death.

[Joe Brower]

Ah, so one of the head vipers crawls out of the fascist woodwork to spit his statist venom at the Constitution. Is anyone really suprised. Read the last paragraph -- looks like sweaty-head is talking some fighting words. Of course, he'll never have to pull the trigger himself. No wonder he's so brave.

Sic semper tyrannis!

[mc5cents]

[BlueDragon]

This (Shumer's statements) could be inshrined as a classic example of what it means to "talk out of both sides" of one's face. Broadly interperated? Ok--according to another old Supreme Court decision,that means that the populace is permitted to have access to the very same types of arms as the military. But recently, if it had not been changed before becoming law, California would have defined little Ruger 10-22's as being "assault rifles". I almost wish it had passed as first written, so that the whole thing could have been thrown out. As it is now, everytime the "news" reports on gun seizures, if it's a "long gun", a.k.a rifle---it's called an "assault weapon. Even if it's an old military "relic", bolt action rifle. Five round, fixed, blind magazine, bolt action equals "assault rifle" to the newsies. And probably called that by some of the coppers seizing the same. We should be PASSING OUT M-14's (the semi-auto version) to the law abiding. It sure would make it harder for any land invasion... and do away with a "problem" of potentially using our private arms for the defense of the nation---which is the problem of having a bewildering array of calibers. .308's for everbuddy! The Army can have their full-auto capable .223's.

[Benson_Carter]

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