[wheezer]

Really, I consider it never to be one's oblgation to particpate in a game where one simply does not accept the premise. Broad brushing racial stereotypes, wheteher to denigrate one group, or declare another to have overall "net pluses" is one I'll pass on.

I'm not a fan of our current immigration policies and basically agreed with Pat Buchannan on the matter when it was fashionable to ridicule him for his "xenophobic" views.

[Anamensis]

I suspect you, Laz, and I all have pretty similar views on immigration. But he was pointing out that we have not really benefited in any way that we can see from the incoming Muslim hoardes, and you accused him of "painting with a broad brush." He asked you if you could counter his point in any way, and you couldn't. Sometimes that broad-brush approach, while lacking in "sophistication" and "nuance" and "subtlety" and all the other new-age values, is simply... accurate. We are not benefiting from an influx of people who embrace values diametrically opposed to our own. It's not even necessary to say "they are bad and we are good." We are incompatible and there is nothing wrong with saying so.