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Crown Prince Abdullah sets conditions for relations with Israel
Arab News (Saudi) ^

Posted on 05/10/2002 5:44:00 PM PDT by RCW2001

By Abdul Rahman Al-Rashid, Editor in Chief, Asharq Al-Awsat

LONDON, 11 May — Crown Prince Abdullah, deputy premier and commander of the National Guard, has laid out the conditions for establishing diplomatic ties with Israel.

“The withdrawal of their forces will not be enough in itself. They must return to the pre-1967 borders, end their occupation of Jerusalem (which will be the capital of Palestine), and allow refugees to return to their homeland. Moreover, Syria should get the Golan Heights, and Lebanon its remaining occupied land,” he said. Prince Abdullah made this statement in an exclusive interview with Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper, a sister publication of Arab News. The interview appears in the Arabic daily today.

“If this can end the plight of five million Palestinians and restore the lands of three countries, ensuring stability in the region, wouldn’t (full diplomatic relations) be a price worth paying?” the crown prince asked when queried on diplomatic ties with the Jewish state.

In a wide-ranging interview which covered the US plan to attack Iraq, Saudi oil policy and the opening up of the Kingdom’s telecommunications industry, Prince Abdullah said there was no need to declare war against any country if it complies with UN resolutions.

“Global relations are based on international law. The US can deal with Iraq the same way it did with its neighbor Cuba, despite their differences,” he said, and called upon Baghdad to implement all UN resolutions. “The US administration has promised us it will do good on the Iraqi issue,” he pointed out.

The Saudi crown prince denied that there had been any foreign pressure on the Kingdom to influence the way it formulates its oil policies.

“The OPEC countries decided a reasonable production ceiling. Is it reasonable to believe that all these countries accept pressure? In the Kingdom, we will not allow anybody to influence our national decisions in any way,” he stated.

Prince Abdullah, who attracted global attention when he presented a new Middle East peace proposal, which has since been endorsed by all Arab countries, said he had frank and open talks with President George W. Bush during his recent visit to the United States. “My intention was to get the Saudi, Arab and Islamic voice — especially the voice of the Palestinians — heard by the decision-makers in the United States,” he added. “I was fully convinced that there is no conflict between US and Arab interests. And we wanted to convince the American side that making peace will also serve their interests... I did not go to Houston with the intention of presenting negative ideas. I am by nature optimistic and I don’t know despair. God will find a way out for those who fear Him,” he explained.

Referring to US press reports that the crown prince was angry during his talks with Vice President Dick Cheney, Prince Abdullah said: “We exchanged our views frankly, with mutual respect.”

Prince Abdullah also said all his talks in the US focused on two issues: the siege on Palestinian President Yasser Arafat and the Israeli crimes in Jenin.

“We believed that there was no point in restarting peace talks before bringing to an end the present tragic situation” he added.

“We want to have relations with the United States based on mutual respect. We will not threaten them and we will not accept any threat from them. This has been the nature of our relations for more than 60 years. At the same time, we don’t accept to be on the right or left of anybody. We will decide our place

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as per our views based on the Islamic faith and our values and morals and our Arab and Islamic interests.”

Prince Abdullah said President Bush had helped make their meeting a success. “He arranged a comfortable place for our meeting and increased the time allotted for it and the time was enough to discuss the situation... The president was considerate of our views and proposals.”

He said the president was moved when he was shown the pictures of Palestinians massacred in Jenin. He said he explained to the US side that Arafat is the elected president of the Palestinian people and is not talking only on behalf of himself.

“President Bush accepted our views humanely and was touched by the injustice being suffered by the Palestinians. He insisted on the need to set up a Palestinian state while the Israeli forces were trying to disband the Palestinian Authority. We understand the political situation in America and we don’t want to comment on it. President Bush called for the establishment of a Palestinian state. He was the only US president to make such an announcement. We wanted to push things in this direction peacefully, and will not give in to any obstruction.”

Asked whether he would have threatened to cancel the peace initiative if Israel did not lift the siege on Arafat, he said: “We told the US side frankly that there will not be any initiative without ending the existing crisis. In political dialogue, there is no place for threats.” Asked when the Palestinian state would be realized, he said: “We cannot make any promise. What we are doing is to try our best in the interest of the Ummah. We will not be disappointed by crises. We have strong faith in God.”

Referring to the allegation that the Saudi peace proposal was to improve the Kingdom’s image after the Sept. 11 attacks, he said: “Saudi Arabia does not need to improve its image. Our country is well known for its moderate and responsible policies over the years. Then why do we need to improve our image.” He also highlighted the Kingdom’s initiatives to reinforce peace in Lebanon, to reconcile Algeria and Morocco.

Asked why the crown prince had disclosed his peace plan to an American journalist like Thomas Friedman, he said: “This is not true. He asked me: why don’t you support a comprehensive peace settlement in return for total Israeli withdrawal? Then I told him this is our stand and this is what I wanted to present at the Beirut summit. If any other journalist had asked me the same question I would have told him the same thing.”

He said it was too early to talk about the Kingdom’s role in any future talks. “The priority is now to alleviate the suffering of our brethren in Palestine. We will exert our efforts to restore full Arab rights.”

Asked whether the Kingdom would play a mediating role between Washington and Baghdad, he said: “We are trying to cool down the situation but we believe that the Iraqi leadership alone can solve this crisis and foil the efforts of those who try to escalate the conflict.”

He reiterated the Kingdom’s opposition to any attack on Iraq and expressed his hope that things would not reach that stage.

He said they had not discussed the issue of Sept. 11 terror attacks. “The US knows that we have condemned the attacks. Saudis are not known for terrorism. But there are exceptions in every society. We have suffered a lot because of terrorism, like the US and other countries.”

On the participation of Saudis in military operations abroad, he said: “We have already banned participation of our citizens in any military activities. But the stage is open for charity work,” he added. He said the government had passed a number of laws to organize relief and humanitarian work to reach aid to the deserving.

The crown prince denounced the anti-Islamic smear campaign and said “Islam is against aggression and terrorism. I don’t know any system like Islam which protects all living creatures including humans and animals, and even trees.”

On giving refuge to former Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, the crown prince said: “We requested that President Musharraf release Nawaz and the president honored our request. We appreciate that. We want to see Pakistan free of chaos and problems. We have very good relations with President Musharraf.”

He underscored the government’s efforts to create a suitable atmosphere for the success of privatization. He said efforts were under way to float part of Saudi Telecom Company for public subscription before the end of this year. The government will also sell its shares in some joint stock companies. The private sector will meanwhile be allowed to invest in desalination projects, seaports and other ventures.

Prince Abdullah added that the Saudi press must uphold its credibility by making sure that it reported facts. “Saudi society wants the press to play its full role and speak freely about social problems and issues and, and to criticize shortcomings in performance.” He said the existing press law could be revised in tune with new developments.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: abdullah; abdullahproposal; israel; saudiarabia
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To: RCW2001
Further evidence that islam needs to be put to the sword....once and for all ridding the world of this evil.
21 posted on 05/10/2002 6:56:46 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500
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To: RCW2001
I have 4 words for the Crown Prince Idiot:

When Hell Freezes Over.

Put that under your towel and shake it, prince!

22 posted on 05/10/2002 7:00:49 PM PDT by usconservative
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To: RCW2001
Delightful interview. I am so pleased that the vaunted "peace" initiative is now exposed as a fraud. This is 100% concessions demanded of Israel. And they KNOW that Israel will never make these concessions. Please, someone show this to Colin Powell.
23 posted on 05/10/2002 7:03:01 PM PDT by EdoTerglav
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To: hangin' chad
Without a Palestinian capital in Jerusalem there will be no peace. The Israelis have a choice.

Yes, and the bad choice would be to let their enemies dictate their actions by threat of terrorism. Otherwise, they will just keep upping the ante.

They are so hypocritical. It was fine for them to use war to win back the land of Israel, but it is not fine for Israel to keep the land they won when it didn't turn in the Arabs' favor. Now they want to use the "if you want peace, you must give us X" rule, while refusing to allow the Israelis to even exercise reprisal without crying foul. They want two sets of rules - anything goes for themselves, but the Israelis must be pacifists.

Their idea of justice is antithetical to ours.

24 posted on 05/10/2002 7:04:35 PM PDT by SKempis
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To: RCW2001
Right of return to their homeland? Surely this would work both ways, right? 800,000 Jews were thrown out of Arab lands at the same time the 600,000 Arabs were "thrown out" of Israel. If the Arabs are to have their land returned, surely the Arab countries intend to fully restore the land of the Jews to them too. Then, on the first Sunday following the peace accord, everyone could get together to swap land :o)
25 posted on 05/10/2002 7:10:43 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
And revoke the uniquely palestinian clause that defines refugees as anyone who had lived there for only 2(!) years.
26 posted on 05/10/2002 7:19:57 PM PDT by SKempis
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To: Twodees
Well, the "crown prince" certainly doesn't want much, does he?

Well, basically all he wants is for Israel to retroactively lose the last three wars initiated against them by the Arabs. Funny thing is, there are people at Foggy Bottom who think this is a winner. Whoever talks to All-sail-no-anchor Bush last on the matter has history in his/her hands.

27 posted on 05/10/2002 7:22:38 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Shermy
And thus we enter the 3rd WW.
28 posted on 05/10/2002 7:27:05 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: RCW2001
Jerusalem? Yea, right.
29 posted on 05/10/2002 7:28:06 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: RCW2001
"Saudis are not known for terrorism. But there are exceptions in every society."

"We will not threaten them and we will not accept any threat from them."

"we wanted to convince the American side that making peace will also serve their interests"

And we think Iraq is the problem? Saddam is a madman, but he's an open book in comparison to the Princes. I'm beginning to think Osama might be a strawman for the House of Saud.

30 posted on 05/10/2002 7:30:06 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: RCW2001
The Arabs all have plans and suggestions for Palestine - not an inch in any of their own barren countries.
31 posted on 05/10/2002 7:37:18 PM PDT by mikeIII
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To: Inyokern
This guy is nothing but Jed Clampett with a turban.

Oh Please! Jed was a bit rough around the edges, but he had a heart of gold, and thought every man a potential friend. IOW, he was a moral human being. This Crown Prince is nothing but a immoral fanatic, dressed up in a Prince's outfit. He'd be living in a tent full time, and wandering the desert, if not for the oil money. Oil that Arabs didn't find, didn't drill for, nor for the most part even extract today, except as the lowest "grunt" type workers, and of course as superfulous "executives".

32 posted on 05/10/2002 7:38:31 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: RCW2001
Saudis are not known for terrorism

Maybe not before 9-11, but the sure as heck are now.

33 posted on 05/10/2002 7:39:22 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: RCW2001
“The withdrawal of their forces will not be enough in itself. They must return to the pre-1967 borders, end their occupation of Jerusalem (which will be the capital of Palestine), and allow refugees to return to their homeland. Moreover, Syria should get the Golan Heights, and Lebanon its remaining occupied land,” he said.

This Saudi peace plan is such utter garbage! DOA!

How anyone in the Bush administration can not openly laugh at it is beyond me.

34 posted on 05/10/2002 7:45:40 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: RCW2001
Nuke these arrogant bastards and get it over with.
35 posted on 05/10/2002 7:45:56 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Inyokern
This guy is nothing but Jed Clampett with a turban. It amazes me that people actually listen to his "wisdom" just because his family struck oil.

I prefer the name BUSH ARABIA to saudi arabia, don't you?

36 posted on 05/10/2002 7:49:14 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: RCW2001
Saudis are not known for terrorism.

Really, Prince Moron? Your hatred filled subjects want to see our blood spilled in the street. I want to see Saudi Arabia PUNISHED for sponsoring terrorism. President Bush, what will it take before you begin to execute your vision that you articulated last September?

37 posted on 05/10/2002 7:49:24 PM PDT by gcraig
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To: McGavin999
Right of return to their homeland? Surely this would work both ways, right? 800,000 Jews were thrown out of Arab lands at the same time the 600,000 Arabs were "thrown out" of Israel.

The A-RABS weren't "thrown out" of the area. They voluntarily left until the great A-RAB armies obliterated the Jews, after which they were to return. Doncha hate it when a plan don't work?

38 posted on 05/10/2002 7:49:35 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
I prefer the name BUSH ARABIA to saudi arabia, don't you?

I believe we should conquer Iraq and rename it "Conoco", capture Iran and rename it "Texaco", capture Saudi Arabia and rename it "Exxon" . . .

39 posted on 05/10/2002 7:51:14 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: EdoTerglav
Please, someone show this to Colin Powell.

Like that'll do anything.

40 posted on 05/10/2002 7:52:33 PM PDT by gcraig
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