'What we know if we look at the 85 exonerations nationwide since 1976 is that the average time that people spent on Death Row was 7½ years before new evidence came to light...'
And what is your point here? You are using statistics out of context.
The point is that by shortening the maximum time before execution to 5 years Jeb Bush is making it easier to execute innocent people. This is because the average time that a convicted murderer spent on death row before evidence came to light that exonerated them was 7.5 years.
Should police stop arresting people because some innocent (and a lot more then are executed) get caught? At what point is society to suffer as a whole so that not a mistake is made?
Of course the Police should not stop arresting people. That is not what I am suggesting, as far as I am concerned if only one innocent person is executed - that is one too many. If the death penalty is revoked then there will be no chance of innocent people being executed. Society will not suffer because the convicted murderers will be in prison for life. If evidence comes to light that exonerates someone then there can be an appeal and that individual can be released. If someone has been found innocent after they were executed then anything you do for them is just window dressing.
...so that makes for a less then 1% failure rate...yup, I'd say that's pretty damn good when you throw in that it's human beings doing this.
Even a 0.01% failure rate would be too high. Obviously, the lives of innocent people mean nothing to you.
You see, here you are again using emotions and not logic...as usual. Well, lets see, why is it that all poor people aren't thieves and robbers and murderers then?
If someone has been brought up without a decent education and without any parental guidance, then it is hardly right to jail them the first time they commit an offence, especially if they are still minors. I don't believe, however, that they should just be released with a warning. It would be better to send them to a secure residential facility where they could be educated and trained in an occupation. Instead, of just locking them up for 5 years in a prison or borstal, where they will just be further corrupted.
Again, you avoid the arguement. This isn't about Russia, never said that the police department didn't need clearing out in the Rodina. This is about your claims of how clean the British system is and how peaceful England is. Don't change the subject.
Actually, you changed the subject. I originally asked you to explain why we should want to get involved with Russia, given its lack of respect for human rights, its fundamentally flawed democracy, its lack of justice and the corruptness of its institutions. Who would you rather be arrested by, the British Police, or the Russian Police?
Fact is, through out the US, a liberalization of gun ownership laws is followed by a drop in crime.
There are more incidents of deadly violence in the USA and because of the easy availability of firearms there is always the potential for a massacre.
As for school shootings, you are full of it. Look at Germany with it's strict laws...problem that all you liberals seems to miss, is that criminals don't follow laws regardless of how strict they are....that (gasp!) is why they are called criminals!
The weapons that German used were owned legally. If firearms were strictly prohibited he would not have been able to carry out that massacre. In 1987, in Britain, we had the Hungerford massacre, afterwards the Government tightened the gun ownership laws. The perpetrator of the Hungerford massacre owned the AK47 assault rifle he used legally. Note the following quote:
'On 15 July 1987 Ryan travelled to the pretty Wiltshire market town of Westbury, where he made for Westbury Guns, situated at 12 Edward Street. The shop’s presentation was typically ‘county’, with stuffed vermin and books such as Shooting Made Easy in its olde-world windows. Nigel Shirnwell. greeted Ryan. It was not the first time they had met. Before long a £310 transaction had been agreed. Ryan produced his credit card once again, and paid a £50 deposit, and then pulled out his firearms certificate and driving licence. This was sufficient documentation to persuade the gun dealer to allow Ryan to pay off the balance, with interest, over a period of months.
The upshot of the deal was that Ryan returned to his car with a Chinese ‘Norinco’ version of the famous Russian fully-automatic Kalashnikov AK47 assault rifle tucked under his arm. This weapon, known as the ‘widowmaker’ by the IRA, and favoured by terrorists all over the world, is extremely powerful, and capable of firing thirty times faster than a finger can pull the trigger, with each magazine holding thirty rounds.
Despite the terrifying nature of the rifle’s firepower, during the summer of 1987 thousands of AK47s were available over the counter and by mail order in Britain at bargain basement prices. In fact, had Ryan shopped around, he could have obtained an identical weapon for £50 less. It was on sale to anyone with a firearms certificate for a standard 7.62min target, and more often than not, credit was readily available too. The certificate itself cost just £12.' From here.
Then there was the Dunblane massacre on Wednesday the 13th of March, 1996. In that massacre a teacher and her 16 young pupils were killed when Thomas Hamilton opened fire in the Dunblane Primary School gym. Hamilton owned the weapons he used legally. In the wake of that atrocity a total handgun ban was rejected in the Commons but legislation was brought in to ban guns of .22 calibre and above and to restrict smaller calibre weapons to secure gun clubs. The logic being, the less guns circulating, the less chance of another massacre occurring.
Even a 0.01% failure rate would be too high. Obviously, the lives of innocent people mean nothing to you.
WRONG, I've got a lot of respect for human life, the lives of the victems. A lot fewer people die when the death penatly is enforced then the 3 in 400 through it's mistakes. It's something you fail to get. Maybe as England continues to become more and more barbaric, you'll figure it out...hopefully before it's to late for you.
Dunblane massacre
Let me give you a little hint, if you are a nut you'll find any way to kill people. In the early 80's, a nut like this one drove his car into a crowd of pedatrians in NYC...killing 12. To bad the US didn't pass a tough AUTO BAN...who knows how many lives could be saved. Here's another hint, Amonia mixed with Chloride produces Amonia-Chloride gas...very toxic....can kill many people...should house hold detergents be banned?
Another favorite of the liberals, use the extreme nut job as the center weight of an arguement...as if the nut job is the status que norm. Sorry, again, I was taught to think for myself and figure these things out...so do most people on FR. You'll fail miserably in your task here. You see, statistics on Britian and Australia speak much louder then liberal BS emotional arguements and the statistics show the full failure of the liberal policies. To bad liberals never learn until it's to late...some times not even then.