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To: Stavka2
First of all, if you think Napalm is not an effective killer, you seriously need to go and study military history (which it seems you have a very tenious grip on) and military hardware.

What you described earlier is not Napalm. Napalm is a mixture of petrol, phosphorus and a powerful oxidising agent. You might as well argue that we should ban petrol since that could be used to set someone on fire.

The point is that firearms when used for the purpose for which they were designed can kill large numbers of people quickly and effectively.

...refuses to acknowledge the failure of the Blair government and its gun control, criminal cuddling.

The British government has always frowned upon the use of firearms for personal or home protection, whether or not the ruling party is Labour or Conservative. It just isn't seen as the British way. That's why your idea about the older generation taking control and bringing back liberal gun laws and capital punishment is so silly. My Father and Uncle are both right-wingers who served in the British army and neither of them believe that encouraging people to protect themselves with firearms would be a good idea. You forget that the British people are subjects not citizens and historically the Government did not want its subjects to be armed. Personally, I am a Republican and want Britain to abolish the Monarchy, abolish the House of Lords and adopt a Constitution.

Capital punishment was revoked over 30 years ago, and is not seen as a more effective deterrent than life imprisonment in Britain. Also since there have been some well publicised cases of innocent people being convicted for capital crimes, then I doubt anyone, apart from the BNP, will revive it.

As for criminal cuddling, I agree that persistent juvenile offenders are often just let off with a caution. It would be better if they were taken away from their useless parents and educated by the state. I doubt that throwing them in prison would help, since they don't know the difference between right and wrong to start off with.

He keeps trying to switch the argument to the state of Russian prisons.

The state of Russian institutions and their ingrained corruption was originally the subject, which you avoided by changing the subject to the British state's practises.

100 posted on 05/22/2002 1:08:10 PM PDT by David Hunter
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To: David Hunter
No I didn't avoid it. I agreed that Russian institutions such as prisons needed to be improved. It switched to discussing England because you constantly brought up England as the prime example of the perfect system and shot those arguements down. As for the State raising kids, now we go into a whole new catogory of marxism. As Stalin once said: "Education is a weapon, it only matters who you aim it against." Think on that.

PS: Napalm is petrol, gas...the american slang. It's benzine with a thickening agent (detergent) that gelitonizes it so that it sticks better.

113 posted on 05/23/2002 10:06:54 AM PDT by Stavka2
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