[jlogajan]

Well, ID'ers appeal to the notion of the infinitely perfect designer -- so they're open to every criticism of the design -- the jaw, the weak back, the knee problems, useless organs like the appendix, etc.

[Tribune7]

Well, ID'ers appeal to the notion of the infinitely perfect designer -- so they're open to every criticism of the design -- the jaw, the weak back, the knee problems, useless organs like the appendix, etc.

What ID'ers appeal to is the notion of irreducible complexity.

If we consider alleged imperfections, why aren't we as strong -- pound for pound -- as cats or even chimps? Why don't we have unlimited self-healing capabiity making pain unnecessary? Why do we die?

These questions are ultimately matters of faith. Those who speak in the name of empirical science can only pretend to answer them. And by pretending, they declare themselves to be frauds as scientists.

Who says the design -- jaw, weak back, the dangerous appendix -- isn't perfect according to the thinking of the designer?

We know, for a fact, we are going to die. We know, for a fact, that the material world is destined to devolve --I'm not even trying to be sarcastic -- into disorder. We may safely conclude that manipulation of the material world is not the point of our existence.