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To: liberalism=failure
Palestinians are really Jordanians, for the most part, and Jordan was the original Palestinian state.
3 posted on 05/08/2002 2:37:58 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Thane_Banquo
Palestinians are really Jordanians,

They are also bloodthirsty monsters.

7 posted on 05/08/2002 2:45:09 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Thane_Banquo
Actually I think they are a rag tag bunch of Arabs from different areas. It's the same as South Africa, the white man goes in, builds a wealthy civilization free from want, then a bunch of blacks from all over Africa show up to do the menial labor, then want to take over. Same as the US and Mexico, that is all third worlders are good for, taking over what they didn't build and what doesn't belong to them. All liberals are good for is whining that we owe it to them for the sake of "compassion", when we don't owe anyone Jack Squat for showing up with their hands out.
11 posted on 05/08/2002 2:51:44 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Thane_Banquo
Palestinians are really Jordanians, for the most part, and Jordan was the original Palestinian state.

True, but not relevant.

Hussein, the previous of Jordan, massacred the Palestinians on "black September". Furthermore, Hussein also repudiated sovereignty over the West Bank in order not to have to deal with the population there, who became stateless. This touched off the first "intifada".

There is no place for these folks in Jordan, unless the monarchy is replaced by Hamas. I don't want that, how about you?

36 posted on 05/08/2002 4:31:08 PM PDT by Salman
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Jordan was the original Palestinian state.

Well, yeah, but the British made a big boo-boo in handing over the Arabian peninsula to the Saud gangsta krew instead of to the Hashemite who had the more legit claim to it, so to pacify the Hashemite they gave them 80% of what was supposed to be the "Jewish National Home."

46 posted on 05/08/2002 5:51:48 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: Thane_Banquo
Palestinians are really Jordanians, for the most part, and Jordan was the original Palestinian state.

Yes and no - I believe you have got it reversed.

In 1921 (after defeating the Turks in WW1 and creating a mandate over the Turkish province of Palestine) the British cut off 78%, the part of Palestine east of the Jordan river, renamed it Jordan and installed a Saudi Arabian Hashemite royal as king. The people in Jordan were the same people as those that remained on the other side of the river.

So immediately these people were called Jordanians but they are the same people who today (and only since 1964) call themselves Palestinians. So the Palestinians received their state in 1921 and now they want a second state carved out of Israel. Until 1948 (pre Israel) the only people who called themselves Palestinians were the Jews living in the British Mandate of Palestine - the Arabs there called themselves Arabs because that's what they were.

I'll just throw in another interesting piece of history - as soon as the Hashemites took over "Jordan" about half the population left and settled on the West Bank. That's from the Mandate Reports to the League of Right so if someone wants to challenge me I'll go to the trouble of posting an extract from the report.

51 posted on 05/08/2002 10:09:37 PM PDT by anapikoros
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