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Student Told To Support Gay Rights Or Get An 'F'
NewsNet5 ^ | 5/8/2

Posted on 05/08/2002 1:11:25 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker

KIRTLAND, Ohio -- What if a class assignment forced you to choose between getting a passing grade or following your moral values?

Lakeland Community College

A class at Lakeland Community College was told to wear a pink triangle for the day to symbolize gay pride.

NewsChannel5's Kareen Wynter reported that one student decided to fight it, but it almost cost him the school year.

Many students dream of graduating school with high honors, but this student said that he has little to look forward to in his final weeks.

"It's a moral issue I have," he said. "I pay tuition to come to this school. I shouldn't have to defend my moral issues."

A class project in criminal justice turned sour for the college senior, who we'll call Ian.

The assignment was to wear a pink triangle around school for the day as a symbol of gay rights and then write about the experience. Ian confronted his teacher.

"I asked 'What if a student were to feel uncomfortable with this -- would there be an alternate assignment?'" he said. "She said no."

He, in turn, got an F and faced expulsion.

So why wasn't the student offered a backup assignment? Lakeland administrators said that it is part of classroom policy.

"I think if the situation were easy, it wouldn't have been part of the curriculum," said Barbara Grano of Lakeland.

Still, faculty members said that they didn't break the rules.

"Absolutely, this student had an option," she said.

When NewsChannel5 spoke with Ian later in the day, his teacher had given him an apology note that read, in part, that the requirement was waived.

Ian said that he doesn't think things would have been resolved had NewsChannel5 not gotten involved.

"I appreciate everything you've done," he said.

His mother was happy, too.

"I was thrilled," she said. "Here's a young man who stood up for himself, and it worked."

Professors at Lakeland said that there's a list of things you can and can't challenge in the school's handbook.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: education; gays; sasu
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To: tututango
How much education do you have, anyway?

That is an extremely dangerous question. You should not attack my integrity, my character, my knowledge, or my intellect. I did not start on that path with you, yet you choose to position yourself into some kind of a frontal assault on my education.

For the record, I have a high school diploma. I am very well read, though, and possess a rare ability to write as well as any of my colleagues.

I am not happy with your remark.

161 posted on 05/08/2002 7:43:50 PM PDT by gcraig
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To: tututango
If this had been merely a "somebody else's shoes" assignment, then substituting a yellow Star of David would have sufficed as a substitute. Instead, the pink triangle was an absolute requirement, indicating that the essence of the message itself was important to the instructor, not merely the experience.

Incidentally, the degree of education one has has only a very tenuous bearing on how intelligent one is... which, in turn, hasn't the slightest relationship to how much one's worldview corresponds to reality.

(As most academicians daily prove.)

162 posted on 05/08/2002 7:45:06 PM PDT by Oberon
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To: madg
He got his Special Treatment, what else does he want from us?

No he didn't. The gay agenda did. They got their reward from the other 99% of the students that fell for it.

163 posted on 05/08/2002 7:45:25 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: madg
It says he got a written apology and a "pass" on the assignment.

Because the poor kid earned it. No one should be forced to pretend to be gay. It's dehumanizing to a straight man.

165 posted on 05/08/2002 7:55:41 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: tututango
I don't see this assignment as being that much different from a home economics class assignment that would require you to care for a sack of flour like it's a baby.
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How much education do you have, anyway?

I am glad I went to school in Poland. The worst Mickey Mouse thing was to go to the May 1st parade while in high school. In the University they did not force anyone to do that (during Gierek rule).

Gee, mandatory homo signs and sacks of flour, why people put up with such crap? I think May the First parade is more dignified. Good that I do not need to study anymore.

166 posted on 05/08/2002 7:57:17 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
Gee, mandatory homo signs and sacks of flour, why people put up with such crap?

Because it's dehumanizing. It breaks down their free will piece by piece.

167 posted on 05/08/2002 8:00:15 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: NativeNewYorker
I would have worn a pink triangle to meet the requirements of the assignment and written the paper.

Of course, my triangle would have measured exactly 1 millimeter on a side. Then if the teacher b!tches...take the F.

168 posted on 05/08/2002 8:02:46 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: DoughtyOne; ATOMIC_PUNK
Under U.S. legislation and court decision, parents have the primary responsibility for their children’s education, and students have certain rights that the school may not deny. Parents have the right to be assured that the schools do not unknowingly or knowingly impair or weaken the student’s beliefs, moral values and belief systems within his or her family unit. A student has the right to hold his or her values and moral standards without direct or indirect manipulation by the schools through curricula, textbooks, and AV material or supplementary assignments. Schools and families successfully working together as partners in education and communication of curriculum content will further strengthen the ability to provide students an excellent education in a way that strengthens individual families and our community.

Under the Hatch Amendment, we hereby request that our child not be involved in any school activity or material listed below unless we have first reviewed all the relevant material and given our written consent for their use.

Values clarification, use of moral dilemmas, discussion of religious or moral standards, role playing, open-ended discussions of situations involving moral issues, survival games including life/death decision exercises, contrived incidents for self-revelation, sensitivity training, group encounter sessions, talk-ins, magic circle techniques, self-evaluation, auto-criticism, strategies designed for self-disclosure including the keeping of a diary, journal or log book, sociograms, sociodramas, psychodramas, blindfolded walks, isolation techniques, death education including abortion, euthanasia, suicide, use of violence, discussions of death and dying, curricula or books and reading materials pertaining to religious beliefs (including elements of witchcraft), drugs and alcohol, nuclear war, nuclear policy, nuclear classroom games, globalism, one world government, curricula discussing anti-nationalistic views, evolution, discussion and testing on interpersonal relationship, discussions of attitudes towards parents and parenting, health education including human development, and education in human sexuality including birth control and pre-marital sex.

Psychological and psychiatric treatment or adult and peer counseling that is designed to affect behavioral, emotional or attitudinal characteristics of an individual or designated to elicit information about attitudes, habits, traits, opinions, beliefs, or feelings of an individual or group.

The purpose of this letter is to preserve our child’s rights under the pupil’s rights amendment, the Hatch Amendment to the General Education Act, and under its regulation, as published in the Federal Register on September 6, 1984, which became effective November 12, 1984. These regulations provide a procedure for filing complaints first at the local level and then with the U.S. Department of Education. If a voluntary remedy fails, federal funds can be withdrawn from those in violation of the law.

The above is a snippet from the Hatch Amendment letter. Although it's a little too late for those parents to notify the school of the Hatch letter applying to the kid, the basic 'rights' still apply.

The Hatch Letter is like Visa...'don't let 'em leave home without it.'(and go to public school)

169 posted on 05/08/2002 8:07:08 PM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: all
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170 posted on 05/08/2002 8:28:51 PM PDT by Diago
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To: LibertyGirl77
I thought it was, "That which is not mandatory is forbidden."

Actually it was

EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY

172 posted on 05/08/2002 8:54:57 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: the
Or "it's" ????
173 posted on 05/08/2002 9:08:15 PM PDT by TheBattman
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To: madg
"Did you read the "article?" It says he got a written apology and a "pass" on the assignment. It doesn't mention if anyone else got the same treatment. Sure looks like a Special Rights victory to me....

Special rights victory ... BullS*IT rather.

Until the scholl was exposed (in their illegality and glorious forced thought-control hypocrisy) red-handed by the TV station, he had been explicitly and without any appeal FACED WITH BEING KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL AND FAILING.

That's NOT "special rights" .... nor a victory. THAT'S CENSORSHIP, PROPAGANDA, AND THOUGHT CONTROL by the homosexuals.

Now, are you going to put a "Abortion Kills a Living Heart" bumper sticker on YOUR car?

174 posted on 05/08/2002 9:16:11 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: madg
The squeaky wheel gets the grease. According to the "article," he got a written apology and a get-out-of-jail-free card. So why is "Baby Ian" still whining? He got his Special Treatment, what else does he want from us?

Oh puh-leeeeze...The kid had more balls than you'd ever dream of having. Of course you never answered the question if would it be OK to force a Muslim kid to go to a Church as pray to Jesus and report on the experience. The kid stood up for a principal and earned most decent people's respect.

175 posted on 05/09/2002 12:55:03 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: madg
What is wrong with making college students THINK?

BTW, what in the world does pink triangle politics have to do with CRIMINAL JUSTICE, which is the subject of the class? You might have a minute point if this were an elective class in some liberal arts class on Tolerance of the Perverted or Sodomy 101, but this is a class on CRIMINAL JUSTICE. This is an attempt by the 'professor' to force political beliefs down the throats of the students in a subject that isn't even related. This is likely a required class for future policement and this is a political move by a 'professor' to advance a political movement. Totally improper in any book, but expected in today's cesspools called Universities. And besides, why would a student get an F for not completing one assignment unless it was a major part of the class? This is all the intolerant gay agenda at work once again.

176 posted on 05/09/2002 2:52:02 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: madg;cmak9; NativeNewYorker; RAT Patrol; elephantlips; Drawsing; Whilom; ravingnutter; A. Pole...
”Walking a mile in another's moccasins" seems to have been the point of the exercise.

So if the point of the exercise said walk a mile in an incestuals shoes would that be a reasonable request?

177 posted on 05/09/2002 4:52:27 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: NativeNewYorker
When NewsChannel5 spoke with Ian later in the day, his teacher had given him an apology note that read, in part, that the requirement was waived.
Well, this was big of her.
Abuse of authority and violation of civil rights under the guise of academics?
Supposing the assignment had been a clumsily disguised compulsory endorsement of other pathologies?
Cannibalism?
Sadism?
Infanticide?

I think nothing short of a court order prohibiting this practice is absolutely necessary.
(Personally, I would fire this "professor". She is not qualified to teach anything.)

178 posted on 05/09/2002 5:02:59 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: scholar
Like the word "ain't".
179 posted on 05/09/2002 5:04:34 AM PDT by Puppage
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Now, are you going to put a "Abortion Kills a Living Heart" bumper sticker on YOUR car?

But only for a day...
*smirk*

180 posted on 05/09/2002 5:09:19 AM PDT by Publius6961
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