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White House reverses [decades old] stand on right to bear arms
Associated Press ^ | Wednesday, May 8 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/08/2002 11:57:58 AM PDT by Patriotman

White House reverses stand on right to bear arms

Associated Press

Washington — Reversing decades of Justice Department policy, the Bush administration has told the Supreme Court that it believes the Constitution protects an individual's right to possess firearms.

At the same time, the administration's top Supreme Court lawyer said the case need not test that principle now.

The administration's view represents a reversal of government interpretations of the Second Amendment going back some 40 years.

"The current position of the United States ... is that the Second Amendment more broadly protects the rights of individuals, including persons who are not members of any militia or engaged in active military service or training, to possess and bear their own firearms," Solicitor-General Theodore Olson wrote in two court filings this week.

That right, however, is "subject to reasonable restrictions designed to prevent possession by unfit persons or to restrict the possession of types of firearms that are particularly suited to criminal misuse."

Mr. Olson, the administration's top Supreme Court lawyer, was reflecting the view of Attorney-General John Ashcroft that the Second Amendment confers the right to "keep and bear arms" to private citizens and not merely to the "well-regulated militia" mentioned in the amendment's text.

Mr. Ashcroft caused a stir when he expressed a similar sentiment a year ago in a letter to the National Rifle Association.

"While some have argued that the Second Amendment guarantees only a 'collective' right of the states to maintain militias, I believe the amendment's plain meaning and original intent prove otherwise," Mr. Ashcroft wrote.

Critics accused him of kowtowing to the gun lobby and of undermining federal prosecutors by endorsing a legal view 180 degrees away from what has been official Justice Department policy through four Democratic and five Republican administrations.

At the time that Mr. Ashcroft wrote the letter, it was unclear whether he was expressing his personal view or stating a new policy position for the government. That question was mostly answered last November, when he sent a letter to federal prosecutors praising an appellate court's decision that found "the Second Amendment does protect individual rights" but noting that those rights could be subject to "limited, narrowly tailored specific exceptions."

That opinion by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals went on to reject arguments from Texas physician Timothy Emerson that a 1994 federal gun law was unconstitutional. The law was intended to deny guns to people under judicial restraining orders.

"In my view, the Emerson opinion, and the balance it strikes, generally reflect the correct understanding of the Second Amendment," Mr. Ashcroft told prosecutors.

Mr. Emerson appealed to the Supreme Court, putting the Justice Department in an awkward position. Although the government won its case in the lower court using the old interpretation of the Second Amendment, Mr. Ashcroft had switched gears by the time the case reached the high court.

Mr. Olson's court filing on Monday urged the Supreme Court not to get involved and acknowledged the policy change in a lengthy footnote. Mr. Olson also attached Mr. Ashcroft's letter to prosecutors.

Mr. Olson made the same notation in a separate case involving a man convicted of owning two machine guns in violation of federal law. In that case, the government also won a lower-court decision endorsing a federal gun-control law.

The Justice Department issued a statement Tuesday night saying its latest comments reflect the Attorney-General's position in the November letter to prosecutors.

"This action is proof positive that the worst fears about Attorney-General Ashcroft have come true: His extreme ideology on guns has now become government policy," said Michael Barnes, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which promotes gun control.

Mr. Barnes noted that other federal appeals courts and the Supreme Court have not found the same protection for individual gun ownership that the 5th Circuit asserted in the Emerson case.

The Supreme Court last ruled on the scope of the Second Amendment in 1939, when it said the clause protects only those rights that have "some reasonable relationship to the preservation of efficiency of a well-regulated militia."


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Comment #181 Removed by Moderator

To: Lael
For its own respect, and the Rule of Law, a way must be found to harmonize Constitutional treatment of ALL the Bill of Rights.

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In 1868, the 14th amendment was ratified for expressly that purpose, -- and has been fought against ever since.
The BOR's is very gradually being 'incorporated', as per the 14th.

The fight to incorporate the 2nd is starting. -- That's what the Ashcroft 'decision' is all about.

182 posted on 05/08/2002 8:15:41 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Texasforever
Are you trying to deny your own gun grabbing words I quoted in # 177?
183 posted on 05/08/2002 8:24:41 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Are you trying to deny your own gun grabbing words I quoted in # 177?

Where did I deny them? I just thanked you for your support. I knew I could count on you. You often use others words to refute your own pitiful arguments. Hell be my guest.

184 posted on 05/08/2002 8:28:19 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: sneakypete
Are restraining orders and injunctions unconstitutional?

"Emerson" has nothing to do with restraining orders or injunctions. It has to do with Emerson being denied his Constitutional Rights to own or be in possession of a firearm. The restraining order was just the "vehicle" that drove it to that point.

Does a restraining order represent due process of the law?

185 posted on 05/08/2002 8:30:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Texasforever
I have proudly known, and exchanged views with sneakypete ever since he blew your old phony friend DITHF out of cover.

Who were you back then tex? -- The name excapes me, but your nasty political style doesn't..

186 posted on 05/08/2002 8:36:08 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Who were you back then tex? -- The name excapes me, but your nasty political style doesn't..

I was Eschior. Don't tell Jim though.

187 posted on 05/08/2002 8:38:47 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Naaa, -- eschoir had wit.
188 posted on 05/08/2002 8:41:23 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Naaa, -- eschoir had wit.<P. A fan huh? No wonder you idolize me to the point of carrying my words thread to thread. I may make you president of my fan club.
189 posted on 05/08/2002 8:43:36 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Bluster about these words all you like:

California has a CONSTITUTIONAL right to ban guns under the 10th. It is just that simple. -- Texasforever -- #177

190 posted on 05/08/2002 9:02:41 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: PatrickHenry
The case upheld a law against individuals possessing sawed-off shotguns, but only because they were not military weapons.

Take a look at sawed-off entry guns of today...

191 posted on 05/08/2002 9:03:21 PM PDT by alphadog
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To: tpaine
Bluster about these words all you like:

Now now Tpaine, it isn't nice to selectively quote. That is a no no.

193 posted on 05/08/2002 9:07:07 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: FreeReign
Does a restraining order represent due process of the law?

I don't know. To tell the truth,I've never thought much about it. My kneejerk reaction is to have no problems with it,though.I see it as a sort of legal "preventative medicine".

195 posted on 05/08/2002 9:14:17 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: tpaine
I also agree that if California decides it does not like guns, and they must since their constitution does not protect the right to own them that is also an issue between the state and its population.

Read... Article III, Section 1 of the Constitution of the State of California, it says in effect we love the Bill of Rights, so that includes the second amendment.

196 posted on 05/08/2002 9:15:57 PM PDT by alphadog
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To: daiuy
Tell it to tex.
197 posted on 05/08/2002 9:16:52 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: sneakypete
Bubba Bush and Janet Ashcroft

hehe

198 posted on 05/08/2002 9:18:09 PM PDT by alphadog
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To: alphadog
Tell it to tex. I can't get him to understand. - NO one can.
200 posted on 05/08/2002 9:19:44 PM PDT by tpaine
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