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Sins of a Father: Priest accused of child molesting ... shielded by Bishop O'Brien.
Phoenix New Times ^ | May 6, 2002 | Robert Nelson

Posted on 05/07/2002 8:44:46 AM PDT by aculeus

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1 posted on 05/07/2002 8:44:47 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
It is time for Bishop O'Brien to come clean.

Enabling child abuse is a CRIME. If he did not report the allegations to the police, the Bishop belongs in jail!

2 posted on 05/07/2002 8:52:21 AM PDT by Drango
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To: Drango
Enabling child abuse is a CRIME. If he did not report the allegations to the police, the Bishop belongs in jail!

Agreed, along with all but a handful of the US Bishops. How did the US episcopate ever get to be infested by such scoundrels?

3 posted on 05/07/2002 8:58:53 AM PDT by traditionalist
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To: aculeus
A few months later, Roy says she told Colleary she was pregnant. She says he told her to have the baby adopted, or get an abortion.
There was a time when I would have simply dismissed such a claim as fantasy. Sad to say, at this point I have no trouble believing her. Absolutely none.
4 posted on 05/07/2002 9:58:17 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Drango
"Enabling child abuse is a CRIME. If he did not report the allegations to the police, the Bishop belongs in jail!"

I've been saying this for months. Their butts belong in jail. I wouldn't desecrate the good bishops by referring to those jerks by that title.

5 posted on 05/07/2002 11:03:17 AM PDT by joathome
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To: Drango
Actually, make that years, not months!
6 posted on 05/07/2002 11:04:05 AM PDT by joathome
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To: aculeus
Bump.
7 posted on 05/07/2002 11:54:25 AM PDT by Monkey Face
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To: Drango
I agree. Why is he covering this up? Maybe O'Brien has a past as well. Sad to say that but I can't help but think it.
8 posted on 05/07/2002 11:59:10 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: aculeus
..."first we were outraged at what the priest did to our son," Doris says. "Now I've spent the last 22 years outraged by what the Diocese didn't do.".....

...yep, outrage, lotsa outrage. And then the outrage gave way to a realisation that the Diocese has big bucks, and we can get a share of the pie", added Doris. "Because...we're gonna need it. Chances are, somewhere down the track, our son will sue us, for doing nothing, 22 years ago."

9 posted on 05/07/2002 2:21:58 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: hsmomx3
Maybe Martin Luther was really on to something a few hundred years ago when he nailed his 95 Theses to the church doors at Wittenberg! I think he tried to warn us about a few things going on back then in the Catholic church. Just got worse, it seems..... sad. He warned that the Pope is the anti Christ. I don't think the current Pope is! But a pope is in an excellent position to be one.
10 posted on 05/07/2002 4:31:21 PM PDT by buffyt
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To: aculeus;drango;eastsider;palladin;sinkspur;american colleen
The 16 year old explained that he walked into his younger brother's room and saw his brother with his pants unzipped and Father Colleary with his hand down the boy's pants.

The Kennedys then went to Tempe Police and filed a complaint. Officers questioned Colleary, Colleary denied the incident and "that apparently was the end of it for them," she says. The police did not investigate further, she says. They did not press charges.

This article is a horror story.

11 posted on 05/07/2002 7:19:25 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: traditionalist
Agreed, along with all but a handful of the US Bishops. How did the US episcopate ever get to be infested by such scoundrels?

Ask yourself this question: if the Vatican had insisted that US bishops bounce these priests and report them to authorities, don't you think they would have done so?

Remember, Fr. Thomas Doyle, who's been on Meet the Press, said that during his stint as Secretary to the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, he regularly referred these accusations of abuse to the Vatican. He never heard a thing from anybody.

The cover-up goes all the way up the line, folks. If the Vatican can get stewed about renovations to a Cathedral in Milwaukee, why didn't these Curial dilettantes get stewed about priests abusing children?

12 posted on 05/07/2002 7:45:10 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: traditionalist
The FBI should stage a raid on the NCCB convention in June. Round them all up; bring 'em all in. Then sort them out. It's a criminal conspiracy, subject to the RICO regulations. It is widespread, intentional, fraudulent, and deliberate aiding and abetting of NAMBLA members and all sorts of rapists and molesters.
13 posted on 05/07/2002 8:02:24 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Thanks for the ping, I think.

I think I'm at the breaking point with all this evil. I actually started posting again on TNS just to get away from it all!

14 posted on 05/07/2002 8:26:55 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: sinkspur
As you well know, the Church norm is the principle of subsidiarity. The diocesan bishop is responsible for dealing with those under his authority. Now what on earth is this Doyle, Secretary of the usual gang of suspects or United States Catholic Conference of Bishops talking about? Why would referrals be made to Rome when then local bishop is the normal authority to exercise discipline.

The United States Catholic Conference of Bishops led by the likes of the late Cardinal Bernardin who provided in his will that the Windy City Gay Men's Churus provide the music at his funeral was president of the USCC. So was his AmChurch leftist pal and successor in Cincinnati, Archbishop Daniel Pilarczyk, who, as we post is ducking and dodging subpoenas and notices of deposition from the actually Catholic Cincinnati prosecutor trying to clean out Cincinnati's AmChurch den of iniquity. Off hand, it looks like the man who is now president of USCC, the black Bishop Wilton Gregory of Belleville, Illinois, is the first president of USCC, possibly ever who is prepared to step up to the plate and have an administrative backbone in his own diocese, where he inherited this pederast priest problem and instead of chanting Kumbaya or turning his cathedral into a pagan temple by wreckovation like Weakland in the usual direct public disobedience to the Vatican, named a panel of non-Catholic laity, established a hotline to them and regularly asked the general public to report the perverts. The line was established ten years ago and has been silent for two. He purged the offending pederasts systematically.

The fact is that the same bishops who have covered for the perverted pederasts for a couple of generations are the cutting edge of those who defy Vatican authority. You know it. I know it. The enraged Catholic laity knows it and the problem will continue to be addressed by a Vatican policy of attrition starting with Milwaukee where pal Weakland threatens libel suits against those who complain to him about perverts in his diocesan priesthood until there is a conclave to elect a successor to the physically crippled and dying pope. Now Weakland is running "listening sessions" as his final dodge of the issue. He has been running "listening sessions" as his response to abortion so that the women we have supposedly offended by Catholic doctrine and who have turned to abortion will know that he is "listening." Of course, he lifts not a finger on behalf of the babies. Before he dies, he will probably try ordaining a few feminazi rebels.

The ongoing attempt by the progressive set to try to take advantage of this situation by diverting attention from the task of fixing responsibility on the homosexual pederasts and their protectors where it belongs and purging accordingly is a disgrace.

We don't need married priests or women priests or democracy in the pews or pushy laity making the pastor's religious decisions or any other aspect of Kumbaya spinelessness or foolishness. What we need is discipline of the disobedient, purging of the priestly offenders and of their protectors. Nothing less will do.

When the longtime wish of the progressives comes to fruition in the end of the current magnificent restorative papacy, they are going to miss John Paul II, particularly in his current period of physical disability because the next conclave will focus like a laser beam on the disgrace that is AmChurch and a new and vigorous pope will set aside that principle of subsidiarity for now as procedural, pierce the protective veil under which AmChurch has operated and impose substantive justice. May he restore the anti-modernist disciplines of Pope St. Pius X which were foolishly discarded by Benedict XV.

We have reached the point where a recent newspaper article claims that the Connecticut General Assembly's House of Representatives has passed, by a margin of 144 to 2, a bill requiring priests to violate the seal of the confessional. Do you think that "Catholic" legislators voting in favor should be flat out excommunicated (not that I expect the marshmallow Archbishop Daniel Cronin of Hartford to do anything even when he is not on Cape Cod).

When will enough be enough? Any priest who complies with a legislative command to violate the seal of the confessional should be defrocked and excommunicated. Any bishop who refuses that duty should be treated likewise. May there be strict obedience or severe Church justice or preferably both.

15 posted on 05/07/2002 10:02:51 PM PDT by BlackElk
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To: sinkspur
Second answer: The Vatican got "stewed" as you put it over not the renovation but the wreckovation of the Milwaukee Cathedral in direct open violation of orders of the Signatura which is the Vatican Court in a ruling on an internal Church canon lawsuit against the Mad Monk of Milwaukee. He lied through his teeth to the news media on two occasions in one month, having been summoned to Rome for chastisement, but returning to claim that Rome had agreed with him. As the court ruled, his "renovations" made the cathedral an unfit venue for the saying of a Catholic Mass.

Those ignored or abused by their bishops in the sense of obtaining no justice or by priests or bishops who cover up or sexually abuse may file canon lawsuits and there is the St. Joseph Foundation in your own State of Texas (at San Antonio?) which gladly takes up these suits without fee on behalf of American Catholics wherever they may reside. I am not aware of any such suits having been filed by complainants over the sexual abuse cases.

16 posted on 05/07/2002 10:13:24 PM PDT by BlackElk
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To: sinkspur
Third answer: The offending bishops are in the regular habit and have been for a generation and more of thumbing their collective and often individual noses at Vatican authority. They dithered for ten years over Vatican requirements that American Catholic "theologians", an offender class if there ever was one, seek a mandatum from their local bishops. The likes of Richard McBrien of the once Catholic Notre Dame University has publicly stated that he will continue as a theologian and will never seek a mandatum. Of course, why should he when the bishop of South Bend, Indiana, led the effort at confusing the issues to delay obedience for about ten years?
17 posted on 05/07/2002 10:18:59 PM PDT by BlackElk
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To: sinkspur
Ask yourself this question: if the Vatican had insisted that US bishops bounce these priests and report them to authorities, don't you think they would have done so?

No, not necessarily. American Bishops have been known to ignore the Vatican quite a lot. That's because the Vatican lets them get away with it. The pope issues all kinds of directives and then doesn't do anything to enforce them. This has been the modus operandi for the last 30-40 years. It's what Vatican 2 called "collegiality."

Remember, Fr. Thomas Doyle, who's been on Meet the Press, said that during his stint as Secretary to the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, he regularly referred these accusations of abuse to the Vatican. He never heard a thing from anybody.

I believe it.

The cover-up goes all the way up the line, folks. If the Vatican can get stewed about renovations to a Cathedral in Milwaukee, why didn't these Curial dilettantes get stewed about priests abusing children?

Good point. This crisis is result of John Paul II's (and Paul VI's) failure to govern the Church. If he had been more interested in maintaining discipline than in traveling the globe, we would not be in this mess.

18 posted on 05/08/2002 10:21:38 AM PDT by traditionalist
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To: Palladin
The FBI should stage a raid on the NCCB convention in June. Round them all up; bring 'em all in. Then sort them out. It's a criminal conspiracy, subject to the RICO regulations. It is widespread, intentional, fraudulent, and deliberate aiding and abetting of NAMBLA members and all sorts of rapists and molesters.

If only John Ashcroft had the guts.

19 posted on 05/08/2002 10:24:52 AM PDT by traditionalist
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To: aculeus
It is time for Bishop O'Brien to come clean.

No, it's time for this creep to resign and face charges! This nonsense has GOT to stop. All the abusers and enablers must be removed immediately!

Arizona Freepers, please give this guy a piece of your minds. His life should become a living hell for the duration of his tenure as bishop.
20 posted on 05/08/2002 10:45:37 AM PDT by Antoninus
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