Jews Rethink Vacations to France

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[jalisco555]

When Mexico voted for the Zionism-is-Racism UN resolution American Jews boycotted Mexico, seriously damaging it's tourism industry. The Mexican hotel owners and airlines forced the govt. to repudiate it's vote and apologize. This sort of pressure works.

[Squawk 8888]

Good on 'em. I've already changed my vacation plans even though I'm not Jewish and I have family in Paris. Not one penny of mine is going to those @!#!

It's hardly surprising to see what's going on there; the French have traditionally been Europe's worst anti-semites. If you told someone in 1920 that a major power would try to murder every Jew he'd assume you were talking about France.

[lormand]

It does not matter that I am not Jewish. I hated France even before all of these anti-semite attacks. When I went to Europe way back in 85', I made it a point to avoid France....always hated them...always will.

I'm trying to convince one of my wife's friends to cancel her vacation to France.

[Angelique]

I find it quite curious that you accuse the French of such anti-semitism without facts or proof. What can be proved is that you are expressing hatred of the French, which seems quite acceptable to you. Are not you doing the same as those for whom you accuse?

Mr. Robinson, I am sick and tired that so many think they get a pass to bash the French. It is hateful, and is the equivalent to saying nigger. Would these people do this in society? Why do they think they can show such prejudice on your Board?

[besieged]

Ditto!!!

We have changed our vacation this time around!!! Israel, here we come!

By the way, Israel could really use the business these days. The 19months of terror have shredded the economy over there.

[bfree]

Maybe you should take an inward look at the image the French portray to the world. Feel free to continue to elect officials who do not support America, continue to support the French press and their anti-american writings, continue to NOT protest the burnings of Jewish houses of worship. Why would anyone want to go to France and contribute to an economy of that type of country?

[besieged]

Other Jews feel that avoiding France is the wrong reaction, particularly since the country has its own large Jewish population - an estimated 600,000, the largest community in western Europe.

During difficult times like this, they say, it's important to be visible.

``I'd feel safer in France than in Israel with what's going on there now,'' said Herbert Roskind, a retired businessman who is planning a European vacation this summer. ``If you want to take a political stand, you should go there and show that you support the Jewish communities there.''

Others point out that blacklisting France will make little difference given the small size of the Jewish population.

Jews make up only 2 percent of Americans, and travel agents, aside from those specifically specializing in Jewish travel, report no broad trend in trip cancellations beyond a broader pullback in overseas traveling in the aftermath of Sept. 11.

Wow... talk about self serving hog wash!!!

Translation: Dang it, I really wanted to go to Paris!!! I am going to have a hissy fit! No, wait... let's see, let's think... let's think... what would Cafe Anal do in this situation?

Aha.. I got it!!! peeeerrrrrfffffeeeeeccccttt!!! Just turn it upside down! Instead of staying away, think that it is important to SHOW UP! Instead of punishing the French, say we need to support the French JEWS!!! Yeah, that's the ticket!!! Hello, Air France??? I'd like to make a reservation please.

Oh well, the world needs the spineless recyclers as well.

It is the oldest dodge in the world of the uncaring... "my vote won't make a difference, I am only one"... and that is how we got Clintoon... and that is how we got Le Pen...

[Clemenza]

Very true.

So many of my parent's Jewish neighbors liked traveling to France because it was "so cul-chad." I'm happy to see that many in the Jewish Community are rethinking their vacation plans.

[BlueLancer]

France: Providers of the the best kosher horse-meat hamburger that money can buy.

[Tuor]

Sorry, Angelique, but it isn't racist or a personal attack to speak badly of France. While Jim Robinson may decide to take exception to it, it would be an expansion of the stated Thou Shalt Nots rather than an enforcement of them.

Tuor

[mondonico]

I find it quite curious that you accuse the French of such anti-semitism without facts or proof.

Proof of French anti-semitism? How about:

1. The Dreyfuss affair.

2. More than 70,000 French citizens sent to the death camps by the Vichy government.

3. The current wave of synogogue desecrations and other anti-semitic crimes in France, together with the government's relative passivity.

[Squawk 8888]

I'm basing it primarily on my own personal experience in that country. Even in "polite society" everyone was on about how awful the Jews & Muslims are. Racism in France wasn't limited to those two groups; while I was in Paris it was commonplace to see platoons of cops rounding up groups of teenagers, not a single white face among them. I also witnessed four Paris cops beating up an interracial couple because they had the audacity to hold hands in public, then they destroyed my camera and threatened me with arrest when I took a picture of them.

I find the French attitude is stunning. They look down their noses at us lowly French-Canadians as some sort of uncultured provincial barbarians, but then expect us to go over there every second generation to win their wars and clean up the messes they've made. I'm sure glad my ancestors got out of France in the 16th century- that decision spared me from a couple of centuries of bloodshed.

[aristotleman]

The actions of the French speak for themselves. How dare you! Just the past month, more anti-semitic vandalism has occurred in France than since the Nazis' times.

Even though I am an artist and a connoisseur of fine things, in love with french products, etc, I have decided to ban all things french in my house, including former french friends, wines, cheeses and travel plans.

[aristotleman]

Your manner of discourse and complaint is indicative of a behavior typical of French self-righteousness. How dare you, I repeat? I could refer you to hundreds of events, facts, both disgraceful and disgusting. I am not going to do the homework for you, however. Find them for yourself, then come back to this website and apologise to the people you are insulting with your stance on France.

[Angelique]

Are YOU ignorant of the facts? Those incidents were of Muslims. So now, France must accept responsibility for the outlaws?

I suppose we should accept, as a country, the recent pipe bombings as our fault? Let us set the record straight. Some of you need to hate. Evidently, it is now socially acceptable in the USA to target the French. Just think, who is next down the line?

There is nothing worse than what you want to purport.

[BlueLancer]

And it isn't just the Jews changing their vacation plans.

My wife and I were planning on going to France (mainly Paris .. for her .. and Normandy .. for me) for our 22nd anniversary. However, because of the anti-American and anti-Israeli attitudes of the French, as reflected by the statements of their leaders and the press, and because of the anti-Jewish violence, she has decided, instead, that she wants to see Turkey and Israel instead. She is Catholic and had been an extreme Francophile ... she is the latter no longer. I'm a Deist and have always detested France and the French ... so, needless to say, I am quite happy.

Keep up the good work, Frogs!

[LarryLied]

Proof of French anti-semitism? How about:
1. The Dreyfuss affair.
2. More than 70,000 French citizens sent to the death camps by the Vichy government.
3. The current wave of synogogue desecrations and other anti-semitic crimes in France, together with the government's relative passivity.

Charges of antisemitism are a cover for the activities of a group just as racism and homophobia are. 10,000 Jewish students marched in the streets of Paris on May day protesting the one man and the one party which is trying to keep Muslims out of France. In the 1930s there was a French reaction to Jews. Many of them supported Trotsky and his pogrom against Christians in the Soviet Union. Many support Trotskyite parties in France today. Are French Christians supposed to love people who follow the teachings of a man who tried to wipe them off the face of the earth via an international proletarian revolution?

From the Pope to Billy Graham to Norweigans to Brits to Americans to Germans to William F. Buckley, there are few who have not been attacked on this forum for being against Jews. Not a way to win friends and influence people. The Al-Sharpton schtick is wearing very very thin.

Jews hail Le Pen defeat in France, see more danger

[LarryLied]

Are you ignorant of the facts, or is your silence and lack of shame an indication of your SUPPORT for this behavior?

Many French Jews apparently support that behavior.They were the ones marching in the streets calling Le Pen a racist, an antisemite and guilty of xenophobia. They are the ones known for voting left, far left, socialist, Trotskyite or communist--parties which support Muslim immigration into France.

[BlueLancer]

"Those incidents were of Muslims. So now, France must accept responsibility for the outlaws?"

And how many have been caught and prosecuted to the full extent of the law (as pathetic as that may be)? How many are likely to be?

As for the pipe bombs, if you can show that these attacks have been directed against anyone because of their nationality or religion, then that would be an equivalent argument. Since you obviously cannot, it's simply more French "perfume" blown into the air to disguise the foul stench coming out of France.