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Pilots with guns scare ABC s Cokie Roberts (Idiot Alert!)
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Posted on 05/06/2002 6:50:01 PM PDT by Draakan

Pilots with guns scare ABC’s Cokie Roberts because “airplanes is one of the few places I feel safe from guns. Having some pilot who’s gone off his nut for some reason running around with a gun does not make me feel safe.” This Week co-host Sam Donaldson stood with Roberts against guns, even when pressed by George Will about whether he wished the pilots had guns on September 11th.

During the roundtable segment on the May 5 This Week with, for now, Sam Donaldson and Cokie Roberts, Donaldson raised how commercial airline pilots have signed a petition to allow them to carry guns in the cockpit.

The prospect horrified Roberts, who denounced the idea: “I don’t feel safer. Airplanes is one of the few places I feel safe from guns. Having some pilot who’s gone off his nut for some reason running around with a gun does not make me feel safe.” George Stephanopoulos, the future solo host of the program, pointed out: “That’s always a danger. That person is always in control of the plane and could fly it into the ground if he wants to...”

George Will quipped: “It is the case, I think, that support for pilots being armed increases as people have more and more experience with so-called airport security.”

Will soon asked Donaldson: “Do you or do you not wish the pilots on September 11th had been armed? Yes or no Sam.” Donaldson: “Well I wish that somebody-” Will: “That’s not a yes or a no.” Donaldson: “Well, when I asked Secretary Powell for a yes or a no question we heard two or three minutes and I and I’m happy to do it.” Will: “The prosecution rests.” Roberts interjected: “Suppose the hijackers had pulled the gun out of the pilot’s hand if the pilot had a gun?” Donaldson came to Roberts’ side: “I don’t know whether it would have made any difference. If it could have made a difference of course you would want it to happen. But I think, in the long run, guns in the cockpit are not a good idea. I join Cokie.”


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To: Draakan
COKIE'S BRAIN BOGG-ED DOWN IN PLANE MISHAPS

Cokie Roberts' father Congressman Hale Boggs was the only dissenting member of the Warren Commission who refused to sign the Warren Report until just before it was submitted.

Later, in 1971 and '72, Boggs began making public statements that J.Edgar Hoover´s FBI was wire-tapping Congress and blackmailing public officials. Boggs had misgivings at the "lone assassin" finding of the Warren Commission panel of which he had been a part in 1964 and had said, "I had strong doubts about it." He named Warren Commission staff member Arlen Specter as a major cover-up artist.

In a speech in 1971, Boggs accused the FBI of tapping his phone... and publicly denounced the Bureau´s "gestapo tactics". Boggs was reportedly prepared to make public statements that Richard M. Nixon was complicit in the JFK murder. Nixon was there all day, in Dallas, although falsely stating he left that morning by plane.

[Sherman Skolnick was on a Dallas radio show with a former Director of Pepsico Bottlers, whose counsel in 1963 was Nixon. He said Nixon did not leave that morning and when the murder was announced, Nixon, unlike the others gathered for a business convention, wanted to continue conducting business as usual as if nothing had happened.]

Congressman Boggs´ plane disappeared on a flight in Alaska from Anchorage to Juneau on Oct 16, 1972, less than 30 days before Nixon was re-elected President in 1972. U.S. Military Intelligence, jointly with other U.S. espionage agencies reportedly located the Congressman´s airplane but have concealed that and the story has always stood that the aircraft was never found.

Twenty years later, in 1992, a Freedom of Information Act Request by Roll Call Magazine unearthed an FBI telex indicating that the plane was located and never retrieved. Information obtained by a government verified source described the location of the plane and stated that there were two survivors shortly after the plane disappeared.

The information indicated an undisclosed "firm" involved in testing advanced surveillance equipment had located the crash. The informant had a military background, according to the FBI document obtained by Roll Call. The FBI telex was sent to the Washington, D.C. FBI headquarters where it was presumably passed to the Acting Director, L. Patrick Gray. The previous director, J. Edgar Hoover, had been in a significant conflict with Boggs, who called for his resignation on the floor of the Congress.

62 posted on 05/06/2002 7:36:10 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: all
Click HERE to Sign Electronic Petition to ARM PILOTS

NEW

THE PETITION IS STAYING ONLINE FOR YOU TO SIGN

It will not be shut down as previously advertised.

63 posted on 05/06/2002 7:36:18 PM PDT by Dubya
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To: codder too
Noooooooo...

You see in Cokie and Donaldson's world the sky isn't blue like in ours. In their world the Air Marshal's would in stead of weapons, use their superior collective bargaining skills to talk the bad-guys out of it, dispense hugs and generally feel their pain. Besides, most likely they'd be busy attending sensitivity workshops to gain understanding of the bad-guys points of view so they'd not even be on the plane to begin with. She's safe.

64 posted on 05/06/2002 7:36:31 PM PDT by raygun
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To: PhilDragoo
Arlen Specter as a major cover-up artist.

Maybe he was trying to cover it up with argyle...or fanel, or maybe this was when he was brushing up on his ancient Scottish law...

65 posted on 05/06/2002 7:39:26 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: raygun
Maybe. But I think it more likely that she only flies chartered flights and hasn't seen the inside of a commercial airliner since the 1960s. After all, she is a member of the American Aristocracy.

Do you think the Kennedy family ever flies commercial?

66 posted on 05/06/2002 7:40:32 PM PDT by 07055
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To: Draakan
Gosh, Airplanes are one of the few places I really feel threated because there are no guns on board--unless of course the bad guys have guns.
67 posted on 05/06/2002 7:41:26 PM PDT by calmseas
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To: Draakan
Well there they go again! Ron laughed at them we should too,if we do at the water cooler,the church,the social club,we will make our point by illustrating the absurb.It ain't hard they are morons common sense,easy choice.
68 posted on 05/06/2002 7:42:16 PM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: mattdono
fanel = flanel (sorry)
69 posted on 05/06/2002 7:42:23 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: raygun
Cokie Roberts...any relation to Julia?
70 posted on 05/06/2002 7:42:55 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: mattdono
Arlen Specter is the father of the Magic Bullet, Commission Exhibit 399, which caused seven wounds in JFK and Connally, two of them in bone, yet lost only two grains of 160 and was visually perfect except for the rifling marks (from shooting into a water tank?).

A reading of his questioning of witnesses is an entry into the Twilight Zone. That he would again contort himself to defend traitor-rapist 42 is consistent.

71 posted on 05/06/2002 7:43:32 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: Draakan
“airplanes is one of the few places I feel safe from guns. Having some pilot who’s gone off his nut for some reason running around with a gun does not make me feel safe.”

This is one pathetic, mentally challenged woman. She should be a lot more concerned about a 'pilot who's gone off his nut' diving the plane into the ground.

Come on Cokie, Think!

Who knows better the issues associated with gun fire in an airplane than a pilot? Besides, a great percentage of commercial pilots have had military experience.

I fly between 25 and 30 weeks per year. I can't wait for pilots be to armed. Maybe that way we can get rid of this sham of a security system at airports and save the travelling public and the country a lot of time and money.

(rundy's rant is finished.)

72 posted on 05/06/2002 7:43:50 PM PDT by rundy
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To: Senator Pardek
I must be losing my mind. Try as I may, I cannnot understand the logic behind this "Do you want a gun in the cockpit?" question.

Other than the obvious answer, YES, the other answer is "Why, no, I'd much rather THE gun in the cockpit be in the hands of THE terrorist!"

It doesn't even LOOK right when you type it! I can't imagine what I'm not "getting."

73 posted on 05/06/2002 7:45:14 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dubya
You may wonder why many of us spend so much time on the Security issue which includes arming pilots. Someone once said "those that do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it". Those of us at APSA along with other pilot groups are working tirelessly to ensure our skies are as safe as they can be.


74 posted on 05/06/2002 7:47:03 PM PDT by Dubya
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To: pray4liberty
"related to Julia Roberts?"...After this: "some pilot who’s gone off his nut for some reason running around with a gun does not make me feel safe,” I'm leaning toward, Yes! You can find them in the dictionary under "R"eally stupid, clueless famous people.
75 posted on 05/06/2002 7:48:56 PM PDT by reaganite
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To: Draakan
Cokie, darlin' you've been off your nut for years. Really in the final analysis regarding airline safety who cares what you think?
76 posted on 05/06/2002 7:51:14 PM PDT by harpo11
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Thanks! I appreciate it! Don't forget to tell them that us Jet Charter Pilots need this also, since on some of the jets I fly, there is no cockpit door at all.
77 posted on 05/06/2002 7:51:56 PM PDT by Draakan
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To: Draakan; aculeus; Orual; TennesseeBob
Airplanes is one [sic] of the few places I feel safe from guns.

As a rule, anyone who can be trusted with jet aircraft (dangerous, and hellishly complex), can be trusted with guns (dangerous on a smaller scale, and quite simple).

Cokie, I wouldn't trust you with a pair of blunt scissors.

78 posted on 05/06/2002 7:54:21 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
While you might not trust her with a blunt pair of scissors, I'm willing to let her go off to the corner to play with a freshly stropped straight razor.
79 posted on 05/06/2002 7:56:08 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Draakan
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80 posted on 05/06/2002 8:00:25 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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