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Clear Creek trapping students into using PINs
HoustonChronicle.com ^ | May 5, 2002, 6:45PM | M. VIRGINIA MARTIN

Posted on 05/06/2002 6:40:03 AM PDT by rw4site

Clear Creek trapping students into using PINs

By M. VIRGINIA MARTIN

IN the past year, Clear Creek schools began using a compulsory computer system for children's lunch money. Each student is issued a personal identification number. If they wish to buy lunch at school, they first must deposit their money in their PIN account. Little explanation was given by the school district, and the new PIN system was announced without offering parents an option to continue to use cash anonymously alongside the PIN system.

This constitutes a serious invasion of privacy by the schools and a loss of our children's rights to use cash.

First, the system is compulsory. The cafeteria refuses to accept cash without a PIN number. This is despite the fact that it says on our money: "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private." If the school does not accept cash for the lunch, it is breaking the law. The law doesn't say we have to have a PIN number. If retail stores began requiring an ID before they accept cash, their businesses would suffer dramatically because customers would object. What business is it of theirs who I am when I buy a cup of coffee or a book with cash? If we see the invasion of privacy in one case, why not the other?

What are the advantages of using cash? Cash is anonymous. Our privacy laws guarantee that it is no business of the government what we eat for lunch, how we buy our groceries or what movies we watch. Since the schools do not provide an alternative to the use of their PIN system, we have lost the privacy of cash. Do we really want to give up this privacy to a compulsory ID system?

Second, the PIN accounts are used to keep a record of the number of times each child bought lunch at school. This is necessary to send the periodic reports to parents about their children's accounts. But if the parents object, there is no recourse. I have told my children that they are not allowed to use their PINs and to tell the cafeteria worker that their mother said so. Just give cash. After a few weeks of this at Armand Bayou Elementary, the cafeteria staff got to know my children and just entered their PIN number themselves. In other words, the school is keeping records of my children's spending habits over my strict objections. This is a clear invasion of privacy.

The schools rapidly learned that fraud is not limited to adults: It was very easy for friends to exchange PIN numbers. The solution was to include a picture of each student on the IDs. Now our children have picture IDs as well as consumer records being kept on them by the cafeteria service. Parents have extensive papers to sign at the beginning of the school year concerning whether we agree to allow the school to use pictures of our children in school publications. Do we have any guarantee that the schools' food services contractor, Aramark, will not sell the PIN records to a consumer marketing group?

Third, the school has set itself up as a banking institution. Parents, as depositors, receive no interest on our money and have no guarantee from the federal government that our money is insured within the legal limit. The school does claim to issue periodic statements of the activity in our PIN accounts (although we have yet to receive one), but it has not offered any explanation as to the financial status of these accounts. Would you invest money in a business that didn't give you a financial statement?

Granted, it's farfetched to imagine the principal of my children's elementary shool taking their lunch money to vacation in Tijuana, or the cafeteria workers selling their ID files to telemarketers, but great invasions of privacy can occur when people don't defend their rights in small matters.

Not only is it an invasion of our privacy and a violation of our right to use cash, but our children, in grades as early as kindergarten and first grade, are placed on the front lines of the battle, having to argue with the cafeteria workers at the lunch register about their PIN numbers.

If the school opts to retain the PIN system, parents should be able to opt out. At the very least the administration could institute a cash only PIN that doesn't identify the buyer, and remove records from their files of families who object. I consider it a very serious issue that a food services contractor has, without my permission, obtained and used pictures of my children and is keeping consumer records of them, and that I am unable to buy them school lunches without using those records. I have no desire to have records of this sort kept on my children.

The school should be required to pay interest on our money or offer other discounts on lunches in lieu of interest. This is similar to buying gasoline. I can pay for gas by credit card, major credit card, debit card or cash. If I use a gasoline company's debit card, I am offered discounts in lieu of interest for the money I have paid the company in advance. And I still have the option of paying cash and need offer no ID.

A school should be held accountable under U.S. banking laws. If it is not willing to be considered a real bank, it shouldn't be in the banking business. Leave it to the banks.

And finally, however likely or unlikely scenarios of theft and misuse are, the issues of right to privacy and the right to use cash anonymously are too important to tamper with even in a minor way.

In the past, my experience has been that the Clear Creek schools have been very responsive to parents and work well with parents concerned about religious and civil freedoms. This is such an issue, and I am hoping for a resolution that we all can live with. Whether we like it or not, we are responsible as voters and citizens to object when our government takes on rights that we have not given them, or we may lose those rights by our inaction. In the words of an eighth-grader quoted on the Freedom Shrine at Space Center Intermediate, "The government has only the powers that the people give it."


Martin is a Houston mother of six children, who range from a first-grader to a freshman in college.




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To: Khepera
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21 posted on 05/06/2002 7:51:53 AM PDT by Xenalyte
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To: Khepera
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22 posted on 05/06/2002 7:55:21 AM PDT by Rustynailww
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To: mhking
Chicago? Will I be safe? Can I carry my gun? I'm always armed and in Chicago I would be considered a felon. Here in Indianapolis at present I'm a law abiding citizen.
23 posted on 05/06/2002 7:55:37 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: Xenalyte
Yes it is call Cow Ghee in finer international markets.
24 posted on 05/06/2002 7:57:06 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: Rustynailww
I have heard of Jungle Jims. I plan a visit there soon.
25 posted on 05/06/2002 7:58:08 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: Khepera
Chicago? Will I be safe? Can I carry my gun? I'm always armed...

"That's the Chicago way."

--Sean Connery in The Untouchables

26 posted on 05/06/2002 7:58:43 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
Guns are evil killers and I will eliminate them....Mayor Dick Daley
27 posted on 05/06/2002 8:04:57 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: Khepera
Now you've done it. I need shrimp . . . STAT!
28 posted on 05/06/2002 8:11:53 AM PDT by Xenalyte
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To: rw4site
The No. 1 problem with government schools is that they are run by the government. The No. 2 problem with government schools is that they are just too damn big. Many of the problems being encountered in government schools are due to the sheer size of these student warehouses.

If we had schools of the proper size where most everybody knew each other, then there would be no excuse for requiring ID for any purpose, including just to pay cash to buy a lunch.

We had no student ID in my schools. Nobody ever needed to see ID because everyone knew me. If I didn't follow the rules, my teacher, the principal, and my parents would all know about faster than I could spit.
29 posted on 05/06/2002 8:15:05 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: rw4site
For years there were no cafeterias. Kids took their lunch or lived close enough to go home for lunch. Then came the cafeteria and the parents sent a quarter to school with the child to pay for their lunch. From that day forward there have been kids who lose their money or forget it and there are also cases where kids will beat up a child or threaten to beat them up for their lunch money.

Then came the free lunch and free breakfast, kids who got a free lunch were sometimes embarassed because they were teased by the other kids so they came up with the the lunch card where parents could pay for the lunch by the week or the child who didn't pay got the same kind of card and the student got their card punched but these cards would forever get misplaced or lost.

The PIN sounds like it might just be a better way to keep track of the money, and make sure the kid gets to eat. Who payed and what student does the school get paid by the state or free lunch program.

It sounds like this woman who has 6 children still has too much time on her hands.

30 posted on 05/06/2002 8:15:20 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: rw4site
Adults in this country are just too selfish and receive what they deserve for it. Stop being selfish! Homeschool your children.
31 posted on 05/06/2002 8:16:10 AM PDT by theoutsideman
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To: rw4site
I'm sorry, abortions are murder and they need to be stopped.
32 posted on 05/06/2002 8:16:11 AM PDT by wwjdn
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To: Think free or die
So do we and I love it.
Every kid gets a PIN lunch number when they enroll and the county sets up an account and keeps track of it.
You don't have to use it, you don't have to supply addition info and here we are alllowed to use cash. The parents can even buy lunch at school and eat with their kids.
1st graders can lose their coats at school in the middle of winter. (Least my son could). Keeping track of a buck and some change every day would be quite a challenge.
33 posted on 05/06/2002 8:24:54 AM PDT by lizma
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To: Texas Mom
My very Libertarian 14 year old at Clear Lake High has stopped buying lunch in protest of the PIN system. I think they must be selling the info to marketing firms. We must be paying those school bureaucrats too much.
34 posted on 05/06/2002 8:26:55 AM PDT by darth
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To: rw4site
Ancient Proverb: Give a bully your lunch money, and you will feed him for a day. Give him your pin, and he will eat your lunch forever.
35 posted on 05/06/2002 8:31:24 AM PDT by monkey
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To: darth
Then I would say anyone has a choice. Pack a lunch.
36 posted on 05/06/2002 8:31:50 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: rw4site
This move to lunch numbers is in response to the Federal "Free" Lunch program. It keeps the children or non qualifying others from getting free lunches. But cash is OK, it just has to have a number to account for where it came in. Even the teachers who eat in the lunchroom have assigned numbers. This is not just in Clear Creek but will soon be in every lunchroom near you. In Florida, we have had this system for three years. Pack a lunch! It cuts down on the amount of control the feds have over the school when fewer applications for free and reduced lunch are recieved.
37 posted on 05/06/2002 8:41:29 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: lizma
Re: "1st graders can lose their coats at school in the middle of winter. (Least my son could). Keeping track of a buck and some change every day would be quite a challenge."

Without the challenge, how do or at what age do you expect a child to learn to keep track of their "responsibilities?

38 posted on 05/06/2002 8:43:14 AM PDT by rw4site
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To: rw4site
Without the challenge, how do or at what age do you expect a child to learn to keep track of their "responsibilities?"

You got that right. Several days in a row of being hungry (i.e., missing lunch by losing your lunch money) can teach a child soooooo much. Unfortunately there are too many parents who want to step in and provide for their little kiddies' every whim. What you end up with is a whole bunch of non-functional adults.

If you want to provide for another creature's every need, get a dog. If you want to raise a fully functional adult, let your kid miss lunch a couple of times. Their stomach will teach them more than your condescending lecture.

39 posted on 05/06/2002 9:11:31 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: rw4site
The purpose of the PIN should be obvious to you - it's so the kids eating "free lunch" aren't embarassed when their parents drop them off and pick them up in new cars.

These parasites frequent the elementary school across the street from me. I regularly see the parents of "free breakfast" and "free lunch" kids driving new quad cab pickups, new Toyota and Honda sedans, new Chevies and Fords, etc.; and there's one I've seen driving a new Cadillac Sedan de Ville. With, of course, four "bambinos" who eat on the taxpayer's nickel.

After all, we couldn't publicize those whose parents are so worthless they can't even feed their own kids, while buying new cars, now could we? Someone might be embarassed.

40 posted on 05/06/2002 9:59:20 AM PDT by jimt
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