[Lazamataz]

What is puzzling is that you do not understand that civil behavior is almost entirely dependent on a correct moral and religious upbringing. It is the lack of this upbringing which is filling our society with sociopathic criminals.

Morality is completely independant of religion.

I offer, as example, Islam.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Morality is completely independant of religion.
I offer, as example, Islam.

This is a good example of morality being completely dependant on religion. A good religion leads to a state capable of civic virtue. An evil religion, which is what the Islamists have, has lead to all of the violence, cruelty, and corruption, not to mention lack of liberty, so pervasive in virtually all Islamic countries save Turkey, which has a secular state, and has suppressed the evil nature of the religious leaders.

Like Wicca, Islam seems to be based, in its mainline form, on sensuality, which is why they promise their 'heroes' virgins to be deflowered in paradise.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Morality is completely independant of religion.

Careful.

Religion is independent of spirituality.

"Morals" are a deceptive replacement for the "avoidance of sin."

Morality is a man made construct that is different than being guided by the Spirit.