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U.S. to Renounce Its Role in Pact for World Tribunal
The New York Times ^ | 05/05/2002 | NEIL A. LEWIS

Posted on 05/04/2002 5:56:01 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: DoughtyOne
Doughty, you just refuse to " get it " !

I'm hoping mad about your senseless " Bushbot " garbage. You have NOT taken " the moral high gtound ", at all. Name calling is the low ground; especially in this instance. No one has gushed " robotically ", on this thread. We're all ( except for YOU ) pleased that the president has done the right thing. That's it; no ifs, ands, or buts about it. The time frame is NOT important, nor significant at all. Your assumption, that he could have prevented other nations from signing on to this , is clearly just your own yearnings, magnified into an erronious , baseless, posted supposition .

It took me a VERY long time, to get into the gutter with you, in the namecalling arena , so don't even try to claim that I am the one who lowered the tone of the debate, dear. : - )

81 posted on 05/05/2002 2:03:53 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Yes, I'm sure that you're roght. Some people just refuse to allow themselves to be " happy " about any good news.
82 posted on 05/05/2002 2:05:22 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I believe that if you'll review your first comments to me on this thread and my first comments to you on this thread you'll discover it wasn't I that attacked you.
83 posted on 05/05/2002 10:43:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
You're beating a dead horse and you lost the argument. Have another beer and think up more ways why Bush sucks and PJB should be in there instead of him !
84 posted on 05/05/2002 10:51:00 PM PDT by america-rules
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To: america-rules
I'll bet I drink less beer than you do. As for the arguement, I didn't lose. The facts are there for anyone who wants to look at the issue with an open mind.
85 posted on 05/05/2002 11:20:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
How am I being dishonest by stating that Bush should not be praised for avoiding his duty on this issue until it was too late to affect the outcome? I don't cast the "Bushbot" title around lightly

Ok, let's play your little game. What was his "motive" for doing this diabolical act?

86 posted on 05/05/2002 11:33:44 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Ok, let's play your little game. What was his "motive" for doing this diabolical act?

I'm not sure why you have a need to think of this as a game.  People do disagree honestly.  If someone disagrees with Bush on point, there doesn't have to be an ulterior motive.  Sadly, those who support Bush have come to the conclusion that anyone who disagrees with Bush is "out to get him" or simply hates the man.  I didn't even hate Clinton.  I hated the things he, his wife and their supporters did to this nation, but I didn't hate them.  I don't hate Bush and I don't hate you, Arne or Nopardons, although I'm not convinced the reciprocal could be stated with certainty.  So when it comes to little games, you'll have to look somewhere else.

As for a diabolical act, I never termed this a diabolical act or inferred a diabolical plot on his part.  Once again you seem to have a need to categorize any opposition to Bush's procrastination on this matter, as a sinister effort to trash Bush or do political harm to him.  Neither of these is true.

This matter was on the radar in early January 2001.  Bush was inaugurated in the latter part of the month.  This was a simple issue to assess.  He should have stated his objections right away and followed through.  A more prominent stance by the United States would have given other nations cover for making the same decision.  To take a stand after the ICC became a reality, was the right thing to do.  Unfortunately it was one month too late to affect the ratification of the ICC.  It was also more than a year to late to claim the moral high ground with regard to the decision.

Now, is this a diabolical plot?  Well you tell me what the plot was.  Up until now I had simply thought that Bush made a tactical blunder by procrastinating so long.  If you feel there was a plot, why don't you spell it out for us.

Honest to goodness bud, you sound like I just told you Santa Claus wasn't real.  Bush isn't perfect and when people criticize his actions it doesn't have to mean any more than that they disagree with the way he handled an issue.

87 posted on 05/06/2002 11:57:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Up until now I had simply thought that Bush made a tactical blunder by procrastinating so long. If you feel there was a plot, why don't you spell it out for us.

Once again you prove your dishonesty.

88 posted on 05/06/2002 7:19:22 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
No, once again you prove that you don't believe me. That's okay. Thanks for the comments.
89 posted on 05/06/2002 9:11:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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