[JoshGray]

No "talking points" involved; just paying agenda-free attention to what's going on.

1) Priests have molested children of both sexes.

2) The Church bought the silence of the victims and hid the guilty.

3) The excuse offered: It's all the homosexual's fault.

4) The solution offered: ban homosexuals from the priesthood.

Sorry, but ain't gonna cut it. A "drunken priest molesting an underaged girl", to borrow an example offered, is just as evil as a sober priest molesting an underaged boy.

As a non-Catholic, the only thing I want to hear is that the Church will be turning both of those molesters over to law-enforcement authorities and they will pay for whatever counseling those victims require.

[SkyPilot]

No "talking points" involved; just paying agenda-free attention to what's going on.

And then you proceed to give an outline of 4 talking points.

Hey, you forgot to use Power Point, change the font to Times New Roman and fax it to "Gays and Lesbians Against Defamation".

Speaking to your first one

1) Priests have molested children of both sexes.

Did you know that Father Cozzens said on Meet the Press that 95-98% of the abuse victims were teen age boys; and that Father McBrien backed him up on that statistic? You know why? Because it is true.

For what possible reason would you want to shift this fact to the doldrums? Hmmm? Why? On your talking points of 2-4, yes the church covered it up, and yes it is the fault of their leadership. But it was homosexual men who raped these lads, and homosexual men who are sexually perverted. It is a word that Paul used in his letters--perverted. Let's say it a few more times, shall we?

Perverted. Perverted. Perverted.

They should be dealt with. I am sick and tired of people apologizing for them.