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To: handk
This guy had better be more specific. Evolution has been "proven".

Now, if he means the grand scope of Darwinian evolution accounting for all the species we see today, thats a different matter. Actually, I dont know if anyone could "prove" the following either:

That stomach ulcers are "caused" by a bacterial infection. That smoking causes cancer. That intelligence is largely inherited. That the current model of the atom is correct. And finally, that little blue smurfs have NOT taken residence in my Colon.

3 posted on 05/02/2002 7:04:37 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: Paradox
This guy had better be more specific. Evolution has been "proven".

No, it hasn't.

7 posted on 05/02/2002 7:11:01 AM PDT by handk
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To: Paradox
Now, if he means the grand scope of Darwinian evolution accounting for all the species we see today, thats a different matter.

Sounds like equivocation and/or rationalization to me.

11 posted on 05/02/2002 7:12:38 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: Paradox
Actually, he has a good point. Evolution is still a THEORY, but taught as fact. It's really stupid to do so at the expense of other theories. When I took western civilization in a public high school, our Christian teacher (good man) presented no less than seven theories on the origins of life on earth, including creationism, evolution, the spore theory, etc. Our Biology teacher presented four of them. Since they are all theories, this is the best (and correct) way to do it. You can't prove any of them based on existing evidence (he did mention macro, not microevolution), and evolution has NOT been proved. (not that it matters to the discussion, but I lean strongly towards the creation viewpoint, but still read up on other theories, because I beleive God has used the structure of the natural universe to accomplish his goals).
19 posted on 05/02/2002 7:24:41 AM PDT by warped
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To: Paradox
I was aparently under the mistaken belief thet evolution was still a theory. Could you please point me to a reliable resource that will enlighten me to the "facts" of evolution? Obviously, you have read, seen, written or researched such facts, since you make such a strong statement.
31 posted on 05/02/2002 7:54:24 AM PDT by foolish-one
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To: Paradox
The only thing that has been proven is that which is observable. MICROEVOLUTION or changes and variations within a species has been proven. MACROEVOLUTION such as fish becoming reptiles or apes becoming humans has NEVER been proven. Although scientists have HANDFUL of what they say are transitional fossils, there is not one PROVEN transitional fossils to support it's claim that one species has changed into another. The evolutionists have been playing with a stacked deck in the fossil record for years now and unfortunately for them, they are now being called on it. One of my favorites in the fossil record is "Nebraska Man." The constructed an entire ape/man charicature of him around a tooth they found. It turns out that it was the tooth of a pig. What is really amazing is that many evolution text books still list this as a transitional fossil. I really can go on for those who want to know more, but I will save it. The theory of evolution is taught as if it were the theory of gravity. We have solid support for gravity. It has been observed, measured and documented. MICROEVOLUTION has met that test also. MACROEVOLUTION does not meet the test, nor can it ever. There is really no way to ever construct a proper model because everything must be done based on assumptions that can never be empirically proven. Creationism is a belief and Evolution is a belief. Science itself came into being out of philosophical roots. Speaking philosophically, I believe creationism makes the most sense. If MACROEVOLUTION is true, there is no moral reason for our existence and no moral consequences. That in itself is very attractive becasue it's gives us freedom to live any way we want to without repercussions. We are really no better than the cockroaches we step on. We need not worry about laws or hurting one another, or helping one another because after all, it is survival of the fittest isn't it? We mustn't lose our edge. I believe that our existence has purpose, just as life itself has purpose. It is much more than blind chance and the collision of molecules. I applaud science, but I think sometimes people really need to do some DEEP thinking. How can one not look around and notice intelligent design. Now going back, you really expect me to believe that a few clueless molecules collided by chance and then later mixed up a pot of primordial soup and brought life into existence? Soup is GOOD food ;). When we break it down to basics and use a bit of simple reasoning, Creationism looks much more attractive.
46 posted on 05/02/2002 9:25:50 AM PDT by rucrazee
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To: Paradox
How has evolution been proven?
253 posted on 05/03/2002 9:19:48 AM PDT by daniel boob
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To: Paradox
Read the end of the article. I think he was pretty specific what he meant.
265 posted on 05/03/2002 10:14:13 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: Paradox
If you can prove it then go present your evidence and collect your money. LOL!
376 posted on 05/04/2002 8:14:48 PM PDT by RickyJ
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To: Paradox
>>This guy had better be more specific. Evolution has been "proven".

Yes...and he also gives three possibilities (God, always was, and evolution). How about 4) None of the above ??

384 posted on 05/05/2002 4:01:27 AM PDT by The Raven
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