[tortoise]

Nevertheless, if one chooses not to believe it God, then one must assume it did come from nothing.

You are aware that physical things are constantly popping in and out of existence in the world around us? Your pedestrian notions of things like time, space, and existence itself are quaint, but not actually grounded in science's physical and mathematical model of the universe.

[MEGoody]

"You are aware that physical things are constantly popping in and out of existence in the world around us?"

Can you give me an example of what you are refering to?