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To: TopQuark
You follow this pattern of throwing in far-reaching statements with zero support for them.

Try using a little deductive reasoning some time. If it is wrong for one person to plunder another then it is also wrong for a million people to plunder a million others.

By what system of morality do you judge such actions of Congress as immoral?

I ascribe to the principle of non-aggression which holds the initiation of force or fraud against another as an unnacceptable means of problem solving. It recognizes sovereignty of individuals and the sanctity of private property. Congress often passes laws which run contrary to the principle of non-aggression. That is how I judge acts of Congress to me immoral. It's quite simple really.

251 posted on 05/02/2002 7:49:24 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: Alan Chapman
It's quite simple really. Surely, it is --- if, as you do, one strips most essential elements of reality.

I ascribe to the principle of non-aggression which holds the initiation of force or fraud against another as an unnacceptable means of problem solving. This is utopian: one cannot enforece anything without some force. This is because in a society it is impossible to attain an outcome desirable by everybody: whenever someone benefits, someone else gets hurt. It is the force that prevents that hurt person from changing outcomes in his favor.

It recognizes sovereignty of individuals and the sanctity of private property. Congress often passes laws which run contrary to the principle of non-aggression. That is how I judge acts of Congress to me immoral. It's quite simple really.

Do you notice that in response to clarifying questions you bring new issues into the discussion?

You said earlier that "it is immoral for Congress to redistribute wealth." I asked you to clarify that. Whatever you said so far does not even touch the question.

268 posted on 05/02/2002 8:32:42 PM PDT by TopQuark
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