[survivalforum.com]

[Frohickey]

Lets see.

We give the government the power to patrol the borders, they don't do a good job, and let enemies in.
These enemies attack us using airplanes, which are declared weapons-free zones by the government.
We attack the places where these enemies came from, and we are asked to pay for that too.
Now, the government asks for more to give lip service to airline security. Airplanes are still declared weapons-free zones.

Sounds like if the government did its initial job better, we wouldn't be paying for all of this too. Or, if the airplanes were not declared weapons-free zones, we'd have stopped them.

[Cold Heat]

The admin has been trying to get congress to raise the caps. They have no choice, but the dems want a political issue. (possible govt. shutdown) AGAIN!

We cannot let the rats get away with this. War ain't cheap and we will all pay for it but the deficit spending should be short lived.

I intend to hold them accountable for it. Bush included. Spending cuts will need to be made and dems will fight that too! They will fight everthing except to raise taxes. We have a battle to fight.

[What Is Ain't]

Budget experts predict the United States will record a budget deficit for this entire fiscal year, which has not happened since 1997.

And who was running the country then?

Was the U.S. engaged in a war at that time?

[Willie Green]

Downsize the government.

Start issuing the pink slips.

[spyone]

To me, this indicates something big in the geo political realm will happen by mid May to shut up the democrats(Clinton bombing a la aspirin factory in reverse). Diarize this date.

[SamAdams76]

Yawn. I've been hearing about the imminent collapse of our economy due to the "staggering national debt" since I was in diapers. Maybe it will happen someday but all these decades of crying wolf have dulled my sensitivity to the problem. If the U.S. economy ever collapses, we're taking the whole world down with us. I guess we'll all be in the same boat together and we'll just have to get through it.

[Willie Green]

"I am not among those who fear the people. They, and not the rich, are our dependence for continued freedom. And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude."

--Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, July 12, 1816

[Willie Green]

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

-- Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, May 28, 1816

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

"No one wants the government to default on its responsibilities," said the House Ways and Means Committee's top Democrat, Rep. Charles Rangel (news, bio, voting record) of New York. "But the people and their representatives have a right to know how the Bush administration plans to get the nation out of this fiscal mess before it authorizes a debt ceiling increase."

Uh....How 'bout reducing expenditures. Thst's what the majority of "We The People..." must do when faced with a problem like this...

[Concentrate]

There are any areas where the federal government could cut back with little or no consequence, such as PELL grants to students to pay anti-American universities, the National Edowment for the Arts, Federal farm subsidies (Are they still paying big bucks to people not to grow crops?), Foreign Aid programs, where they could have an across the board cut of 25% (And why not?), the UN, and tons of useless research grants. What useless federal spending do you suggest we cut back on or eliminate?

We should aim to cut out a lot of federal spending, while actually paying down the debt, even in the face of higher military spending, since the defense of our nation is truly a function of the federal government.

We no longer need jobs programs for youth, as there is now a great need for manpower in the military.

[zeugma]

Here's a ahameless plug for my national debt page.

I last updated it on 4.10,2002, but it's got a lot of data there. (Which is why it gets updated only every so often).

[cynicom]

One of these days, that 6 trillion pound gorilla is going to get us. The government has done its utmost to postpone the inevitable, however it will come, the government will default and collapse into chaos.