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To: VA Advogado
I am sorry to see your brilliant discussion soiled by the libertarians on this thread.

Don't get me wrong. I'm probably more libertarian than many of them. But I don't believe in lying. The Constitution does not require the "exclusionary rule". Plus, I don't believe that the exclusionary rule protects the citizen from government. Like I said, the cop who screws up a search warrant just goes and gets another doughnut. But if we make him personally liable for his wrongful acts, he'll pay more attention.

I don't mean that cops should be made to pay big damages for honest mistakes. I don't for instance think that they should have to pay for typos in a search warrant. But breaking into a house is another matter.

120 posted on 05/01/2002 6:06:10 PM PDT by Rule of Law
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To: Rule of Law
But if we make him personally liable for his wrongful acts, he'll pay more attention.

Many states do both, of course. Exclude evidence and make officers personally liable for their misconduct. Best of both worlds, eh? ;)

121 posted on 05/01/2002 6:15:29 PM PDT by general_re
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To: Rule of Law
I am sorry to see your brilliant discussion soiled by the libertarians on this thread. -VA-

Don't get me wrong. I'm probably more libertarian than many of them. But I don't believe in lying.

Then you shouldn't infer that they do indeed lie, as you just did.

In fact I have seen you lie in the making false accusations of 'deliberate misrepresentations'. You then refused to prove your point, or to further discuss the matter, although you have been repeating these charges in a cowardly way on other threads.

122 posted on 05/01/2002 6:30:39 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Rule of Law
Don't get me wrong. I'm probably more libertarian than many of them. But I don't believe in lying. The Constitution does not require the "exclusionary rule".

You've put into words a point I've been trying to make for a long time here. Indeed when they don't agree with a particular concept or doctrine, they lie about it or make something up. Its terribly difficult to respect or have an adult discussion with them given their proclivity to do this. Keep up the great discussion.

124 posted on 05/01/2002 6:56:12 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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