[AmishDude]

I also want to know who the crackhead was that decided that the state is obligated to outline the citizen's rights to him. Jefferson would laugh out loud. The citizen is supposed to know his rights as a safeguard against the power of the state.

I still don't think this was shoddy at all. Under these standards any judge can throw out anything. With all confessions, for example, there is some level of persuasion. The witness consented to the police behavior. If he regrets it afterwards, tough for him.

[realpatriot71]

I still don't think this was shoddy at all.

We're going to have to agree to disagree here then. If cops would have covered all their bases, like going out of their way to get a warrant and such we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we?