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To: knews_hound
#101, if you please.
102 posted on 05/01/2002 2:19:36 PM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
Ok, lets talk about THIS case then:

The judge cited several factors showing that Awadallah's consent to go with FBI (news - web sites) agents to their office and later submit to a lie detector test was the "product of duress or coercion."

She said the agents repeatedly made a show of force by telling him he could not drive his own car, frisking him, refusing to let him inside his apartment and ordering him to keep a door open as he urinated. Moreover, she said, one agent threatened to "tear up" the apartment if he did get a warrant.

One question first. Have you ever been arrested or detained? Have you personally witnessed one?

If you had, I will tell you for a fact that the Police will NEVER let you drive your own car to the station (you could simply drive away never to be seen again, a likely scenario in this case).

The Police will ALWAYS frisk you before they put you in their vehicle (for their own protection if nothing else).

The Police will NEVER let you back into your home where you can easily destroy any potential evidence (this is so obvious I feel I should not even have to point this out).

The Police will NEVER let you into a closed room unattended no matter if you need to urinate or not (you might have the evidence flushed as well).

The Police WILL make threats to suspects, it happens every minute of every day, is this knews to you? (if simply THREATING someone, not with physical violence, but property violence, is sufficent to have a case thrown out, I fear for our society even more).

as I see it, this is a matter of an activist juror going out of his or her way to find a justification, ANY justification, to get the result they desire.

I am not a Lawyer, Police Officer or anything related to it. I can tell you from personal experiance that ALL of the things that happened in this case are a normal part of Police work.

Please cite for me any relevent Constitutional Amendments that were violated that would pass the Common Sense test to any person on the street.

I cant wait for this.....

Cheers,

knews hound

109 posted on 05/01/2002 3:43:48 PM PDT by knews_hound
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