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To: aristeides
"It was starting to happen in Germany too. The Nazi administrators had tried to remove crucifixes in Bavarian classrooms, Goebbels's press was accusing the Catholic clergy of currency crimes and sexual abuse of minors already before the war, and we have quotes from Hitler indicating he intended to go after the churches after the war."

So removing crucifixes from schools and accusations that the clergy sexually abused minors are the proof of this? No crucifixes are allowed in American public schools. In the USA the Catholic clergy is always accused of sexually abusing minors. So how is this any worse than what is going on today in the USA under Liberal Democracy?

The Communists murdered more than 20 million Slavic Christians and the American government stood silent at this extermination and even gave economic aid to the genocidal Soviet government. The Nazis at least tried to do something to stop the extermination of Christians. This is why Slavic Christians welcomed the Germans as liberators. The American government gave economic aid to the genocidal Soviet government. Till this day there are no memorials to remember the genocide of all these Christians.

56 posted on 04/30/2002 9:52:58 PM PDT by Marduk
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To: Marduk
I can certainly understand why Slavic Christians would have sided with the Nazis, but they were duped. Nazism was just as anti-Christian as Communism, it just never had the opportunity to make that clear.

I agree that current liberal democracy is as manifestly anti-Christian as Nazism was in WWII. It's just that our system gives us the opportunity to resist those trends politically. In Nazi Germany, the people with real power supported those trends, which would only have gotten much worse if those people had held power, and there was no possiblity of resisting them politically. Yes, they could be resisted bureaucratically, but bureaucratic resistance in general is just a holding action.

57 posted on 04/30/2002 9:59:32 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Marduk
"The Nazis at least tried to do something to stop the extermination of Christians. This is why Slavic Christians welcomed the Germans as liberators."

The feeling didn't last long, however, as the eastern Slavs started to figure out what the Nazis had in mind for them. If Germany had won the war there would be no such thing as Poland or Russia; their lands were to be colonized by ethnic Germans.

72 posted on 05/01/2002 1:25:32 AM PDT by Truthsayer20
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