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To: AmishDude;DentsRun
Why are their loyalties suspect? And suspected by whom? You?

I'm with DentsRun. Kristol, Podhortez and Safire cannot be trusted. When McCain started bashing evangelical Christians during the primaries, all three of them began jumping up and down with glee. So did Jonah Goldberg. McCain was wonderful. He was going to deliver them to the promised land, a GOP land purged of those nut case right wing Christians.

And now the three (four) of them are preening and cooing over how nice and wonderful it is that those born again Christians they despise are Israel's best friends.

I was sucked in by all of them except Kristol. Read Safire for decades. Podhortez and his dad were great. Goldberg did good work during Clinton's impeachment. Thought the neocons were tolerant solid conservatives. Now all three are lower than dirt imho.

Btw...I'm not an evangelical. Far from it. But I had to see people used and I hate users even more.

98 posted on 04/27/2002 7:51:40 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
He was speaking of national loyalties and you know it.
103 posted on 04/27/2002 7:57:47 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: LarryLied
I'm with DentsRun. Kristol, Podhortez and Safire cannot be trusted.

I find this about as surprising as hearing that you were a big fan of the Wansee conference.

109 posted on 04/27/2002 8:11:15 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: LarryLied
What you say about Jonah Goldberg is not true.

McCain blasted evangelical leaders on February 28, 2000, or thereabouts. On March 1, 2000 Goldberg published a criticism of McCain for doing so: HEY JOHN: HERE'S HOW YA DO IT. In Goldberg's admittedly goofy way, it defends evangelicals from the demonization to which McCain was pandering.

On March 6, Goldberg published a further piece on the matter, IN DEFENSE OF BOB JONES UNIVERSITY.

Sound to me like you're running your Jews together. They really don't all look alike.

231 posted on 04/27/2002 10:45:38 PM PDT by Southern Federalist
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