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Marchers mark anniversary of mass killings in Ottoman Empire
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | Sat Apr 27, 3:46 PM ET | AP

Posted on 04/27/2002 2:37:50 PM PDT by Spar

Marchers mark anniversary of mass killings in Ottoman Empire

Sat Apr 27, 3:46 PM ET

LONDON - Almost 1,000 people marched through central London Saturday to commemorate the 87th anniversary of mass killings of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire.

The group called for recognition from the Turkish and British governments that the killing of up to 1.5 million Armenians between 1915 and 1919 was genocide.

Turkey has always rejected such claims, saying Armenians were killed in civil unrest during the collapse of the empire.

Hratche Koundarjian, spokesman for the Campaign for Recognition of the Armenian Genocide, said the killings wiped out 65 to 70 percent of the population.

Koundarjian said the demonstration was held to draw attention to the death marches to concentration camps that the Armenians were forced to join.

"If we march for two hours and get sore feet we might just begin to get a very small idea of what it is like being marched to your death," he said.

"The European Parliament has called on Turkey to recognize the genocide. But the British Government refuses to recognize the genocide — a convenient policy to promote relations with Turkey."

Campaigners also held vigils outside the Turkish embassy in London during the week.

(jw)


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: armeniangenocide
Summary of events, quotes, articles of the time, first-hand accounts, suggested readings and pictures

Photographed by a German Officer in Turkey.

Turkish hangmen and their victims in Aleppo, 1915.

Turkish soldiers pose proudly with their Armenian victims.

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1 posted on 04/27/2002 2:37:50 PM PDT by Spar
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To: Spar
What concentration camps? The Turks weren't planning on keeping these folks in Anatolia. They were just marching them off across the mountains to "somewhere else".

You know, it is not necessary that you even have an intention of killing people to end up killing a lot of them. On any long march you will lose the very young, the old, the handicapped.

If this is a forced march, young, healthy people among the victim group will challenge you with force as they see their grandmothers and their children die. You will then have to kill them.

Next thing you know genocide will have happened.

The Turkish government and the Turkish people feel no guilt over this event since "they did not intend it". That does not mean they are not guilty of an atrocity!

Folks who want to line up all the illegal aliens and march them over the border back to Mexico should be aware that there are ALWAYS unintended consequences for such actions.

2 posted on 04/27/2002 2:59:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Spar
Perhaps Turkey refuses to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide, as documented above, because of Turkeys fear of having to pay reparations.

I am aware of a few survivors still living in the US, France , and Argentina who also have written articles and personal letters of their harrowing experiences...and could legitimately lay claim to any such reparations.

Can one conclude then, that Turkey is playing the waiting game?

3 posted on 04/27/2002 3:11:24 PM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: Spar
And who the hell are we to presume to right all the wrongs of man's inhumanity to man that went on before our time? We are assured that God will judge-we should be thankful for that-who else is qualified?

If the rabble rousers have their way, we will spend all our time and energy, atoning for, apologizing for, repenting for, and trying to fix problems and evils, not of our making. We have more than we can handle, undoing and repairing what we ourselves have screwed up, and that, thank God, is the extent of our guilt and responsibility.

4 posted on 04/27/2002 3:12:23 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: prognostigaator
My readings indicate that the armenians were christians. Possibly some more of the religion of peace and it's handiwork.
5 posted on 04/27/2002 3:13:49 PM PDT by aimlow
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To: aimlow
My readings indicate that the Armenians were Christians. Possibly some more of the religion of peace and it's handiwork.


Capitalized a couple of proper nouns for you.Hopefully the oversight was not intentional.

BTW ,what religion do the Zimbabians and So. Africans follow?

6 posted on 04/27/2002 3:25:21 PM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: prognostigaator
Since you know the answer just say it. Thanks for the correction on my grammer.
7 posted on 04/27/2002 3:28:40 PM PDT by aimlow
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To: Spar
Even Hitler recognized the Armenian Genocide, he said 'who remembers the Armenians'. That's one reason why he thought he could get away with the holocaust.
8 posted on 04/27/2002 4:37:28 PM PDT by Kermit
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Before our time? The victims still live.
9 posted on 04/27/2002 4:39:04 PM PDT by Spar
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To: Lent
fyi
10 posted on 04/27/2002 4:43:49 PM PDT by Spar
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To: aimlow
Since you know the answer just say it. "

Actually don't know .
All that is known is that the Africans killed each other unmercifully while the heads of state pocketed famine relief and aid monies....

11 posted on 04/27/2002 4:50:23 PM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: aimlow; prognostigaator; Kermit; Lent
Editorial Cartoons of the Armenian Genocide


12 posted on 04/27/2002 5:17:03 PM PDT by Spar
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To: aimlow; prognostigaator; Kermit; Lent
Armenian-Syrian WWI Poster, 1918
13 posted on 04/27/2002 5:20:37 PM PDT by Spar
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To: muawiyah
Likewise the Trail of Tears.
14 posted on 04/27/2002 6:01:03 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: Spar
Bttt. The way to not repeat is to stop the denial. Revionism is the way of the Islamics.
15 posted on 04/27/2002 7:18:39 PM PDT by Lent
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To: Lent
Bttt. The way to not repeat is to stop the denial. Revionism is the way of the Islamics.

The Turks will never take responsibility nor even admit that the attempted genocide of the Armenians took place. That is why they cannot be trusted as an ally -- their moral compas is obscured by their determination to believe a lie rahter than face the truth.

16 posted on 04/27/2002 11:02:42 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: Spar
The victims appeared to be very dead, with their head on a stick. Any who remain alive must be close to a hundred years old, even if they were infants in 1919.

I'm not in the habit of defending Muslim terrorists and I sure don't intend to start now. We do have our hands full right now though, keeping the present day islamic zealots from erasing everything resembling civilization, from existance and memory.

17 posted on 04/28/2002 8:57:32 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Once the last Armenian survivors die, then the reparations to those living victims no longer applies, which is probably why the current Turkish regime denies a crime committed by an old regime it was not connected to. After the survivors die off then the only justice that can be done for them is to remember them.
18 posted on 04/28/2002 12:18:56 PM PDT by Spar
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To: Spar
And to think that President Tony Blair of Great Britain refuses each year on 'Genocide Day' to invite participation by the Armenian minority (nor the Serb minority). The US is hardly any better, each effort by the Armenian Lobby to get the event recognized nationally killed by Congress or executive waiver...

Ironically, the French did (eventually).

VRN

19 posted on 04/29/2002 8:11:37 AM PDT by Voronin
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