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Impatient Bush Tells Israel To Withdraw "NOW"
Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet) ^

Posted on 04/26/2002 9:08:46 PM PDT by RCW2001

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To: RCW2001
The Bush admin's attempt to meddle in the Israel debate has been a disaster for them, and they have lost a great deal of face. I admire the imagination of those who can see this as part of a larger strategy; I myself can't see it. The administration looks divided and clueless.

Fortunately they've done nothing that quite gives away the store. And the Arab rulers are so clueless that every move they make gives the Bushies one more reason to attack Iraq. So hopefully little is lost ultimately.

21 posted on 04/26/2002 10:37:12 PM PDT by PianoMan
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To: veronica
Well you see, there's where I disagree. I lived in Texas for 14 years and voted for 'George' six times. He is not 'GHWB' (albeit, who doesn't listen to their dad for advice)

He is going to follow the path of his own convictions and faith and I can almost guarantee that he finds Washington the cesspool of backstabbing whores that it really is (was there for 15 months so I witnessed THAT first hand).

Any true Texan would much rather be 'home on the range' versus having to deal with the tripe that comprises DC. My thoughts, and especially with Karen Hughes hoofing it back, is that he is already of that mindset. Do what has to be done 'in the interest of the USA'!

Of course, If the mandate is sooo strong come 2004, maybe he will reconsider, but other than that, his sights are set on doing 'whats right' for the USA. All others, be damned!

To the dismay of the DC whores...'there isn't a chapter in their 'playbook' for such a man'!

Bottom line...President Bush is NOT running for re-election, He is running the Country!

22 posted on 04/26/2002 10:39:46 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: Southern Federalist
And I will ask you again...were you 'harmed' by it, or better yet, what harm did it cause? That somebody clicked on the link and actually read the story? That upsets you? Why?
23 posted on 04/26/2002 10:43:26 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
were you 'harmed' by it

The issue is not whether it did me harm; the issue is whether you posted the article in a straightforward manner.

what harm did it cause? That somebody clicked on the link and actually read the story? That upsets you? Why?

I have no clue what this string of insinuations is supposed to contribute except to muddy the waters. I have no objection to anyone reading the story. It is a very informative story. But I think it is important that FReepers have the confidence that when someone posts an article, they are really "reading the story," as it actually appeared in print, not as the poster has chosen to modify it to spin his particular point of view. I shouldn't have to click on the link to read the story; what you post should be the story , nothing more, nothing less.

I believe, in fact, that if you post copyright material, but change anything in it, you are legally obligated to say up front that you have done so.

24 posted on 04/26/2002 10:56:49 PM PDT by Southern Federalist
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To: RCW2001
Not as much as the POSTED BY: RCW2001 did.

I saw your name and instantly knew there would be an anti Israeli twist to this somehow, someway. LOL

Bush looked pretty insincere to me, on his "withdrawal now" comments, just like he did when he said it the last time, only this time, even less convincing.

Israel will withdraw, when they are done. No big deal. Period.

25 posted on 04/26/2002 10:58:39 PM PDT by eccl1212
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To: Southern Federalist
Well then you are going to be a 'busy lil bee' tonight then aren't you? These are some thread currently running with 'corrupted titles'...and this was just the first pass. Noted, I didn't see any of your 'complaints' on these threads.

Enough with you...if you feel you have a legit complaint, contact the moderator and get the thread killed. I'll post as I feel fit and 'within' FR regulations. If capitalization of '2' letters of a titles is a violations...let me be informed by the forum moderators...

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26 posted on 04/26/2002 11:24:15 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
He is not 'GHWB'...

True is much more pro-Israel than his father. And of course he is working toward reelection. Every first term President does. And don't project your fantasies that he is anti-Israel onto GWB.

He is also planning our attack on Iraq. The visit of the 'Prince' was part of that. The main thing the Arabs want now is to use the situation in the Middle East to divert attention away from that goal, but they are running out of time. The overarching thing they want is to get the US to turn against Israel. Bush made it clear again today, that goal will never be reached. He 'appeases' the Arabs when he needs to. But he supports Israel when it counts, like over the last month, when Israel was able to begin to shut down the terrorist networks. If you think Bush is not aware that the American public supports that, that Congress supports that, you live in a dream world. Rove is already on record as saying he is going after the Jewish vote, partly to prevent another close election. And we know the GOP is strongly pro Israel now. Bush knows that too.

27 posted on 04/26/2002 11:50:07 PM PDT by veronica
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To: RCW2001
And of course Bush is not like the usual wonks in DC. That's why I voted for him. He's running the country, but you can bet he wants a second term and is strategizing how to win it. Don't be so naive...:)
28 posted on 04/26/2002 11:55:40 PM PDT by veronica
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To: dc-zoo
" but wish he would stop trying to appease the arabs."

The fact that he is doing that shows no leadership. If he was leading, he would tell the arabs to put up or shut up. He made it very plain in his speech after 9-11. I repeat, watch what a politician does not what they say. Try to please everyone and you will please no one. In fact, that shows lack of leadership.

29 posted on 04/26/2002 11:58:21 PM PDT by poet
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To: RCW2001
Do what has to be done 'in the interest of the USA'!

Which you define as what? Not supporting Israel? I assure you Bush is not of that mindset. Nor are most Conservatives. As Rush says, it is in America's interest to support it's democratic ally.

30 posted on 04/26/2002 11:59:31 PM PDT by veronica
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To: poet
If he was leading, he would tell the arabs to put up or shut up...

I will bet he said exactly that to the Saudi Prince, in private, of course. Especially today, when it came out the Saudis are paying blood money to the families of terrorists.

31 posted on 04/27/2002 12:03:29 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
We'll see. I hope you are correct, but, I won't hold my breath.
32 posted on 04/27/2002 12:13:00 AM PDT by poet
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To: RCW2001
Cut off all aid to Israel. cut off immigration and dual citizenship as well. Let the middle east sink into the ocean, and skip off the oil. Simple.
33 posted on 04/27/2002 12:13:10 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve
Better plan. Cut off all aid to Arab countries that promote and tolerate terrorism. Drill for oil here. Find and throw out anyone here who supports terrorism in the Middle East, in any way. With money especially. Move the US embassy to Jerusalem. Send Arafat home, to Egypt.
34 posted on 04/27/2002 12:16:33 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
I thought that he wanted to get NOW organization out of there...
35 posted on 04/27/2002 1:37:51 AM PDT by weegee
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Someone has to show a little wisdom in this situation.
36 posted on 04/27/2002 5:15:28 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: dalebert
Yes, and it looks like Sharon will have to keep trying to push some sense into President Bush's head.
37 posted on 04/27/2002 6:06:32 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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To: RCW2001
All of the links you sent yield "the article you posted is not on the server." I know that people often editorialize in the title that appears on the board. That's OK so long as once you click on the title, you get the original text. I don't know what these other posters did, since the links don't work.

I've said my piece about this, and don't see any need to pursue it further.

38 posted on 04/27/2002 6:59:35 PM PDT by Southern Federalist
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