You are absolutely right. I have plenty of them. My dad voted Clinton-Clinton-Gore the last 12 years I was in the military. So did his brother, a combat veteran of USS Enterprise 1942-1944. Why? They figure voting Democrat means more free money for their old age. My older brother votes straight Dem every time since he's in a state union (and thinks they are more likely to legalize pot). I have an aunt who thinks Hillary! is sent from God, if you try to tell her anything, her eyes get that glassy, glazed-over look, it's just the VWRC, you know. And, plenty more among my relatives, most of whom are Irish Catholic. They see the Dems as more compassionate and generous, and that's that. Doesn't do any good to talk to them (like, that "compassion" is with Other Peoples' Money, taken at gunpoint). And I haven't talked to them much in the past decade, come to think of it. They pi$$ me off too much.