Posted on 04/26/2002 5:55:35 PM PDT by RLK
The new Socialism/Marxism: "From each who have something that can be taken, to support each according to the mess they are making."....
...What is well into fruition is a reconquest and conversion of Southwestern United States by force of numbers and occupation. After a given proportion of local American populations are Mexican immigrants, the legal and administration of various American states will be overwhelmed and Mexicanized or coopted while momentum of the social demography will work to smuggle more illegal immigration as well as subvert attempts to stop it. This will, in practice, eliminate the borders between the countries in certain areas and allow unlimited mass migration to pour through those points. From thence the population can redistribute the wealth or anything else through participatory democracy. That essentially parallels what happened in South(ern) Africa, which subsequently became a hellhole. The African lesson should be heeded. In 10 years California and Texas will become de facto socialist provinces of Mexico that have massive national political leverage in the United States. These provinces will have numerous senators, representatives, and enormous numbers of electoral votes. This will, in turn, provide unresistable leverage in accessing and redistributing individual incomes in the remainder of the United States through input into taxation and direction of expenditures.
Moods and impressions are not tools of cognition. Check out the population and economic stats on Mexico, check out the arrangements between Mexico and the USA on immigration, multiply it all by about ten to fifteen years, and the result is a coldly, soberly, rationally deduced serious cause for alarm. And that's something to get upset about.
No one here wants to shoot your family, by the way, in fact, they're more likely to take you and yours out to the range for instruction in the proper use and maintenance of firearms.
If you lived in Austin or Dallas, then you can't even claim ignorance as an excuse, then...
With regard to whether or not they are fine people, they are here ILLEGALLY!!! I don't care if they're living saints, they don't have any business being here.
That is not racism, that is FACT. The mexican families who legally immigrated to the USA are very resentful of the aliens who come streaming across the border. My neighbor- whose family has been here for four generations, has a sticker of Calvin (from the cartoon strip) on the back of his truck, urinating on "La Migra." Is he, too, a racist???
The illegal aliens that come here are criminals. Did it ever occur to you why 28% of the felons in our jails are illegal aliens??? Care to take a guess at where the majority of illegal aliens are from?
this is close to the heart and I take it personally.
You take it so personally that you can't see what is plain. The "undocumented immigration" is in reality of flood of (by definition) criminals. They don't deserve our compassion, they don't deserve our respect. They deserve to be hounded and harassed, until they realize that it's better for them to go back to wherever they came from, then to stay...
That isn't racism, it's reality. And BTW, most of the liberal ninnies who can't think of a good response to my arguments resort to calling me a "racist." I get that a lot, from people who are ignorant of reality, and impervious to logic. I've even been called a "Nazi" for saying Ariel Sharon has a right to defend Jews in Israel. (I found this little irony particularly amusing.) When all you can come up with is that I'm a racist...? Then I know I'm on a roll...!
A little "tough love" for all your illegal-alien friends!
Why is it that people assume that being white is the path to a life on easy street?
No jayef, you are wrong.
A lot of us lazy CAUCASIANS used to be willing to frame houses for $1.50 per linear foot.
But because illegals invaded during the 90's and were able to do work cheaper not because of efficiency, but because they DON"T HAVE to pay taxes, or workman's comp insurance, they have driven a lot of us lazy white people out of the business.
That's not racist, that's unfair business practices.
You make the most racist statement on this thread yet, have been cussing people for very little provocation, why should people take your point seriously?
their culture is one of being conquered (repeatedly), and have contributed nothing to the betterment of humanity.and:
Their modus operandi is clear- overwhelm the local population, the local population leaves because they can't stand the filth and crime that the mexicans bring with them, and the mexicans then follow, looking for a handout, for under-the-table work, or for something good to steal.
and:
Their only claim to fame is filth and corruption.You're talking about illegals only, right? Or are you talking about my cousin's wife, her family and the decent Mexican people that I know and have personal relationships with? I'm sure you'll grace me with a forthright answer.
Oh man, here we go again. I get tired of telling this story, but evidently there are still so many people who believe the PC lie you expressed above, that I have to relate my own personal experiences with illegal scumbag aliens and the jobs they take.
Last year, I worked for a suburban DC telecom company that employed about 15-20 illegal scumbag aliens. I, and the other Americans (and even one Candaian who had come here legally) on the crew were getting anywhere from $18-25 an hour, while the scumbag illegals were getting $8-10 an hour on 1099s. I shared an apartment with one of them while on the road for a project in New York, and got very tired of him bragging about how he didn't pay taxes. He bragged that he, and the rest of his scumbag illegal Mexican and Central American aliens back in DC paid $400 each for fake documents. He was driving a beat-up POS pickup that looked like it was right off the streets of Nogales or TJ, and of course, had no insurance. While we were up there, he moved his girlfriend into his room in our apartment, and was talking about bringing up her two brothers, also, so they could get jobs locally, and they could have a good ol' illegal alien time all in one room! This was the straw that broke the camel's back, so I spoke up to the boss, got fired and called the INS. Any guesses as to how far that investigation's gotten?
Each one of those criminal scumbag illegal aliens was taking a highly skilled , well-paying job away from an American, because the damn scumbag criminals who owned and ran the company saw them as a way to increase their bottom line. I'm as big a capitalist pig as anyone else on this forum, but when you break the law in the name of bigger profits, you deserve to be rounded up along with all the other illegal scumbags, be stripped of your citizenship, and deported.
So, the moral of this long rant is that illegal aliens take all types of jobs away from Americans, not just room cleaning, table bussing and strawberry picking jobs. We are being invaded, and making excuses like "but they're such hard workers" just helps them weaken this country that much more. It's time we all get good and friggin' PI**ED OFF and end this insanity before it becomes a nail in our nation's coffin!!
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
But I just want you to no that there is one white boy out here who hasn't ever had JACK given to him and has worked hard for everything that he's got. Me.
My jobs...landscaper, gas line worker, house demolition, standing in ankle deep water pulling weeds at a nursery in Florida, roadwork, farmwork, restaurant work, and construction for the last 15 years.
During my construction career, I have fallen from 25 ft. once; fallen from 10 + ft. 3 times, had a 2x4 with 3 16 penny nails sticking out of it fall and stick itself in my left knee; had my left eye popped like a grape; was using a nail gun, nail hit a knot and come out the top of the wall right through my pointing finger.
My whole point being, please don't assume that being white means a life on easy street. And that we do sometimes work some labor intensive jobs.
Being in the construction industry, I have worked side by side with many immigrants, Hispanic or otherwise. I will agree that Mexicans are a proud, hardworking group
But why should one group get to circumvent the rules when others like Canadiens are made to follow the rules?
I don't hold the Mexican people soley responsible for the crush of immigration and it's related issues. I also hold responsible the fat, rich businessmen who are making bloated profits on the backs of these people by circumventing the same rules.
Another issue...
On Easter Sunday morning, 1994, I had to take a good friend to identify his wife's body. An illegal Mexican immigrant had gotten drunk, ran a red light, and killed my friends wife.
As with a lot of illegals here, he didn't have insurance.
At the hearing, the Mexican consulate appeared and stated that the Mexican government would take the perp back, and make him serve time there.
He was transported back to a Mexican jail, served 60 days, and was released.
Last year, I attended that dead lady's daughter's college graduation and wedding.
So I, like you, have a personal stake in this issue.
Mr. Bush's lack of direction is very apparent in his handling of Arafat. Arafat is a terrorist. Bush promised to go after terrorists. He hasn't kept his word.
It takes a person of class and intelligence to admit when they are wrong, and apologize.
I raise my glass in toast to you, and graciously accept. ; ^ )
It's not just "some Mexican dude who didn't pay taxes", either. It's thousands who not only don't pay taxes, but who use services that are paid for by the taxes of all of us, even you. Now, if this doesn't bother you, maybe you'd like to volunteer to pay my share, too? To top it all off, they broke our nation's laws getting here! Every illegal scumbag alien is a criminal first and foremost!
I know, from one of your earlier posts, that you have family considerations that shape your outlook on this issue. If your relations are here legally, speak English, work and pay taxes, are working toward becoming American citizens, and have a desire to improve their new nation as well as their own lot in life, then I welcome them with open arms, and will one day be proud to call them my countrymen. If not, they need to pack up and get out. Period. I don't have a problem with folks celebrating their heritage in their neighborhoods, their homes, their churches, etc., but if they're here, they need to be proud to be American, and accept our language and our way of life. Now, does this sound like I'm condemning an "entire race"?
Lastly, I'm not a sociologist, but I've heard that Hispanic is not a "race", but an ethnicity. I've been told that the only real "races" in the world are Caucasian, Negro, and Oriental, and that everyone on Earth either belongs to one of those groups, or is a derivative or combination of one. I know for a fact that Hispanics can be Negro, Caucasian, and even Oriental. Of course, I'm not a sociologist, either, so I could be completely wrong.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Tacos do not contribute to the betterment of humanity.
overwhelm the local population, the local population leaves because they can't stand the filth and crime that the mexicans bring with them, and the mexicans then follow, looking for a handout, for under-the-table work, or for something good to steal.
If you are unable to see this, then I offer the expression, "there are none so blind as those who will not see." (you)
Their only claim to fame is filth and corruption.
The United States of America is made of people who move here, to become Americans. Not mexican-Americans, not Yugoslavian-Americans, not cuban-Americans. Just Americans.
When I went to Eastern Europe, I didn't expect everyone to kowtow to me, or speak English to me... I had to work hard, to learn the languages.
When a person goes to a foreign country, that person is expected respect and obey the local laws, customs and courtesies of that country. If they want to become a citizen of that country, this is not just expected, but required.
Illegal aliens piss on our country, its' laws, its' customs, and everything else that makes the USA a great nation.
They expect us to learn Spanish (which people who real spanish say is like "ebonics" is to English), expect us to pay them social security, pay for their childrens' education, their health care, and so on...
If a person immigrates here legally, and becomes a citizen, then great.
If they come here illegally, I have no more sympathy for them, then Mexico does for illegal immigrants coming in from Guatemala and Belize...
A quote from Samuel P. Huntington,
The term "immigrant" as distinguished from "emigrant" only came into the English language in the 1790s, and was created by people already here to describe the new people who were arriving. They drew a very sharp distinction between these new arrivals, these immigrants, and those who had been here for decades or conceivably a century and a half or so, who were the original settlers and founders of society.
By the above definition, the flood of illegals coming here undermine the society, by flouting the law. The legal immigrants, become citizens by obeying the laws of this country.
You think Mexicans are law-abiding people??? Click HERE to answer that... You'll see that, contrary to your unsubstantiated claims, they don't have any respect for any laws, or anyone.
If you think they're so great, pack your bags and leave.
More apt.
Umm. OK. So you really don't care that the illegal aliens from Mexico break the laws by coming here illegally. And you really don't care that it's a de facto invasion, fulfilling their so-called La ReConquista? And you really don't care that they're turning entire cities into barrios?
I can see that you really don't care about reality, now, do you?
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