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Careers are 'making women miserable'
Daily Telegraph ^ | April 25, 2002 | Paul Stokes

Posted on 04/26/2002 9:12:13 AM PDT by Korth

WOMEN have become unhappier as a result of concentrating more on their careers than the family role they once fulfilled, an academic claims in a new book.

Prof James Tooley believes the feminist revolution of the 1960s and 1970s brought about huge changes in attitudes which have not be conducive to motherhood.

In his book, The Miseducation of Women, published next month, he suggests many professional woman would have been more contented by staying at home and bringing up children.

He draws comparisons with the film character Bridget Jones, a love-hungry young woman in publishing who becomes a television presenter and craves a stable relationship rather than being left "a singleton".

Prof Tooley, professor of education policy at Newcastle University, considers that the role of housewife has been "desperately undervalued" in society.

He argues that schools should allow girls to concentrate on the arts and domestic science rather than being pushed towards subjects such as engineering and computer science in an attempt at sexual equality.

Prof Tooley, 42, who is single with no children, said yesterday: "The Bridget Jones effect is growing in society. Women find themselves successful in their careers and unhappy in their lives.

Domesticity has been degraded over the year, particularly by feminists in the 1970s who used the phrases 'parasite' and `leach' to describe the housewife.

"I expect career women will react very strongly against me and to even suggest women would be happier in the home has become almost a taboo. We need to cull a few sacred cows and start a debate on the subject. That is what I am trying to do."

He describes his book as "largely a think piece", based on a study of more than 100,000 men and women in Britain and America by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

Its findings led him to examine the way the education system was shaping the way women lead their lives.

Among his assertions are that women who were pushed into science as pupils and embarked on careers such as law and accountancy are unhappy by the time they reach 30.

Prof Tooley, from Rothbury, Northumblerland, said: "I'm not suggesting we ban girls from the labs, but my research shows that 30 per cent of young women are unhappier with their lives than previous generations were, while young men now seem happier than previous generations were."

Prof Tooley believes the "Bridget Jones generation" was spawned by the feminist revolution.

"Feminists went right to what they thought was the root of the problem. They looked at schooling to change the situation. The Sex Discrimination Act of 1975 and the introduction of the National Curriculum in 1988 are, in a way, products of that, and they've transformed what is taught in school.

"But this means that the curriculum is now designed according to the feminist idea that girls should be following the model that was set down for boys. That is, pursuing a career at the expense of all other things.

"I suggest that this is pushing girls in a direction they don't want to take and there's a whole generation of working women who don't want to be there."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: feminism; marriage
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To: Hawkeye's Girl
Didn't miss the point of your post at all. Did I not agree that that was a wise course of action? :P

Just saying that whether you had a back-up or not, IMO that doesn't make you a leech.
121 posted on 04/26/2002 5:34:18 PM PDT by Green Knight
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To: bourbon
nah ...just a Mississippi ex adventurer who absolutely loved "conflict" diamonds....LOL
122 posted on 04/26/2002 5:43:27 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Mahone
PLEASE!! Don't propogate their agenda by labeling yourself a 'stay at home Mom'!

How about "Domestic American"? :-]

123 posted on 04/26/2002 5:44:58 PM PDT by Longshanks
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To: Hawkeye's Girl
I hope my (one-year-old) daughter grows up to be as smart as you are.
124 posted on 04/26/2002 5:47:53 PM PDT by patton
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To: Surfin
Ah man.....I'm shi$$in goose bumps......yep French Huegenot and my dad hated that fact.......Majure was an old family name from South Carolina around 175 years ago.
125 posted on 04/26/2002 5:49:29 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Mamzelle
I want my wife at home - as soon as she has finished her teaching contract for the year (37 DAYS), she is done.

We had to move all sorts of money around, pay tax penalties, and agree to eat a lot of spaghetti.

So what?

I want my wife at home, and she wants to be there.

126 posted on 04/26/2002 5:50:40 PM PDT by patton
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To: Mamzelle
I meet no men who really want their wives at home. THEY WANT THE INCOME. Not to mention the bragging rights of a two-career marriage.

I couldn't agree more. Men have been big beneficiaries of feminism in that it took away the imperative dictated by society to provide. It used to be that if a man couldn't provide for his family, he wasn't much of man at all, barring any tragic circumstances.

In fairness to the new generation of men who want to diversify more than provide; a dollar doesn't buy what it used to. In 1958 (when my parents emigrated to the US) their rent totaled slightly less than 25% of their income; that is unheard of today. But be that as it may, men are just as ready to chuck childrearing to a disinterested third party as are women.

128 posted on 04/26/2002 6:06:12 PM PDT by Aedammair
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To: Surfin
I appreciate your point of view, and whether the scenario you present is a common occurrence or not, I have no way of knowing.

There is no doubt that there are a lot of bad, stupid, ugly on the inside women; as a woman I have to say that I'm probably a bit of a misogynist myself. I always got along much, much easier with men than women, because women have a tendency to be ruled by their jealousy. And they are usually not fond of women who like to go it alone.

For me men are much easier to be around. I'm an only daughter in the middle of a bunch of fiesty men, and I'm very much loved. A man in love is extremely fragile, as is a woman, but it's also up to men to pick good women, because they are out there.

I understand the pull of the physical, but alone it's without value. It's ok to date a hollow "looker", just don't marry her.

130 posted on 04/26/2002 6:40:06 PM PDT by Aedammair
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To: olivia2boys
Well, you are asking one of those moms who does not work even part time and my answer is the same one I give to my mother who thinks there is nothing to do or be fulfilled with if you don't work even a little. My answer is I have some very fulfilling hobbies that occupy my time and fulfill me. I mean I'd only work for money so why would I bother if I don't need it? I choose instead to spend my time being fulfilled at home. To me, this is very near heaven! I love what I do, where I live, my family, my hobbies ie "work", and it's wonderful. So my answer is probably some women who don't work at all, probably have other things that fulfill them that don't come with a paycheck and maybe do not enjoy the jobs they would be working at anyway. Not knocking you--your obviously satisfied with your situation.

Now, if you are referring to why more full time working moms don't go part time. I have some ideas. A very big one being that they don't know any other way to be even if they are unhappy, it's just like the housewives of the 50's, they think this is what they are supposed to do.

132 posted on 04/26/2002 7:06:02 PM PDT by glory
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
True on one hand, but you can't stop living your life planning for things that may never happen either. There has to be some balance and I can tell you of a few women I know who hold desperately to thier jobs for some eventuality that may never happen and it's an unhappy life indeed. When nothing does happen 20 yrs down the road, then they wonder and regret about all the time they missed with thier children.

Oh, and there is another way to plan too. I stay active in our financial situation and part of the way I plan while staying home is to work with my dh as far as saving money. This to me will reap a better life for me and my children if anything happens to him, than finishing my degree at this point and taking some entry level job and shoving the kids off to daycare when they need me the most.

133 posted on 04/26/2002 7:12:47 PM PDT by glory
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To: bandlength
geez..bitter are we?

Well, let's see. I can tell you it's NOT fairy tale land since I'm living it. While I feel terrible for you, I don't think your situation should be some banner for why girls shouldn't get married, stay home, etc. Like I said in another post, if you are busy worrying and planning for an eventuality that may never happen, you will miss out on life.

Again, sorry for your situation, but don't out of your misplaced rage sit here and demean those of us who do stay home by insinuating that what we live does not exist.

BTW, I would point out that by the tone of your post, you are not really refuting what this says right? Life has thrown you some loops, but it doesn't seem that you are all that happy with working even though you have too, so what was wrong about this post. just because women feel they have to work because of irresponsible men doesn't mean that makes them anymore happy or less miserable because they HAVE to work. My guess is you would still choose to stay home being supported by a LOYAL and DEVOTED man, than work, no? Your divorce has not changed the basic desires of many women? Or refute what this article says.

134 posted on 04/26/2002 7:26:44 PM PDT by glory
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To: Aric2000
Bravo Aric, my husband feels the same way and as a wife who is homeschooling, I agree with your wife...I don't plan on ever going back and look forward to homeschooling and God willing the Lord will take us to old age, my husband and I retiring into grandparenthood together once the kids are done with homeschooling! I really don't ever see myself working out of the home again BY CHOICE!
135 posted on 04/26/2002 7:32:05 PM PDT by glory
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To: Lorianne
? If they make a mistake, let it be. People learn from mistakes.

Unfortunately some mistakes leave women childless, barren, and alone just when they want children though. While making choices, young women should be given some very basic truths and the biggest of which being when thier fertility is at its peak, when it will likely be gone, and the dwindling supply of mates as one waits to marry. They need to understand that they can have a career well into thier 70's with good health, but they can not have babies well into thier 70's. Once they have some of those basic biological truths, then, and only then, can they be free to make informed decisions about the rest of thier lives, and yes, to make mistakes too.

136 posted on 04/26/2002 7:52:02 PM PDT by glory
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To: bandlength
AND in my own personal case, i get a whopping $94 a month for my two kids as my ex-husband has been "finding" himself for the last 12 years., i.e. getting an education (PHD) in lieu of working and sending child support money

And this is why, when people find out I'm divorced and ask if I have any children, my reply has always been, "No. If we had had children, I wouldn't be divorced. Widowed, maybe, but definitely not divorced."

Maven
137 posted on 04/26/2002 8:06:03 PM PDT by Maven
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To: glory
True enough. We need to give young people information. Fine. But how many young people heed all or even most of the warnings adults give? After age 18 you're pretty much on your own. If you make mistakes (and who doesn't) that's fine. We don't need to coddle women in this regard is all I'm saying. If you wake up at 40 and forgot to have kids, why do we need to listen to whining about it?

The author seemed to be gloating about women in a paternal "I told you so" sort of way. Give me a break. Females over 18 are adults and fully capable of running their own lives, mistakes, regrets and all, just like grown men.

His tone really bugged me. It sounded like he was saying adult women aren't qualified to run their own lives using the emotionally incompetent (and fictional) "Bridget Jones" as his basis for that assertion. This would be like me making sweeping generalizations about men after watching a Pauly Shore movie.
138 posted on 04/26/2002 8:08:32 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: farmnlogit
WOMEN DON'T TAKE WORK SERIOUSLY AND SHOULD IN FACT STAY HOME AND LET THE MEN TEND TO BUSINESS

In the last three years, I took our small family business, totally restructured the financing and tripled the gross income. I'm projecting that this year will be 50% better than last year.

I work 70+ hours a week, 6-7 days a week. I do it because I enjoy and I'm good at it.

But YMMV, of course.

Maven
139 posted on 04/26/2002 8:10:18 PM PDT by Maven
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To: Cowgirl
Forgive me if you've already seen this, one of my favorite G.K. Chesterton quotes:

"...when people begin to talk about this domestic duty as not merely difficult but trivial and dreary, I simply give up the question. For I cannot with the utmost energy of imagination conceive what they mean. When domesticity, for instance, is called drudgery, all the difficulty arises from a double meaning in the word. If drudgery only means dreadfully hard work, I admit the woman drudges in the home, as a man might drudge at the Cathedral of Amiens or drudge behind a gun at Trafalgar.

But if it means that the hard work is more heavy because it is trifling, colorless and of small import to the soul, then as I say, I give it up; I do not know what the words mean. To be Queen Elizabeth within a definite area, deciding sales, banquets, labors and holidays; to be Whitely [a famous London Department store owner] in a certain area, providing toys, boots, sheets, cakes, and books; to be Aristotle within a certain area, teaching morals, manners, theology, and hygiene; I can understand how this might exhaust the mind, but I cannot imagine how it could narrow it.

How can it be a large career to tell other people's children about the Rule of Three, and a small career to tell one's own children about the universe? How can it be broad to be the same thing to everyone, and narrow to be everything to someone?

No; a woman's function is laborious, but because it is gigantic, not because it is minute. I will pity Mrs. Jones for the hugeness of her task; I will never pity her for its smallness."

140 posted on 04/26/2002 8:22:00 PM PDT by allthingsnew
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