[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Using your interpretation that Socialists always go on the left, where does that put "Libertarian Socialists" (those anarcho-utopian-socialist types)?

Simple, they're socialists. They are also liars who are publicly denying their true agenda, which is the ridiulous vision of global socialism. Granted, a great many of them are useful idiots who simply have no clue.

I am probably the most right wing in this forum. I have no use for any government at all. That's anarchy, the real right wing.

[supercat]

Granted, a great many of them are useful idiots who simply have no clue.

If you recognize people in three classes:

1. Those who want to let others take care of (and control) them.
2. Those who want to control their own lives.
3. Those who want to control others.

then many things will start to make sense. Today's "left" is an alliance of #1 and #3; the people in group #3 want to keep others in group #1. Recognize that, and it will become quite clear why "the party that cares about the poor" [Democrats] has the richest donors.