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To: moneyrunner
hitler was made by the big money like krupp.

the nazis were neither national nor socialist. did you know that when the war was lost, hitler gave the 'nero' order? that meant destroying all industry and blowing up the mines to leave nothing to the enemy. and he ordered the whole population to kill themselves because 'who does not win is not worthy'. he was not anything more than a madman playing chess, just like stalin.

communism does not work and the communism we had on this planet developed very fast to a dictatorship. if we really had the kind of people we need to get a working communism, we could take any other form of government and it would work brilliantly, too.

18 posted on 04/26/2002 5:29:39 AM PDT by Schweinhund
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To: Schweinhund
"If we really had the kind of people we need to get a working communism"

If a frog had a glass ass he'd only bounce once!

You were right in the previous sentence....communism doesn't work...............PERIOD. Reason: men were born to be free, made by God to be free! Freedom is in the genetic make up of human beings. You can pontificate about history, you can debate theories, but you can't deny that where ever there is tyranny, and slavery, a man, or a group of men have risen to fight it. Think about that for a while!

19 posted on 04/26/2002 5:41:45 AM PDT by timydnuc
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To: Schweinhund
if we really had the kind of people we need to get a working communism, we could take any other form of government and it would work brilliantly, too.

If all men were angels, any sort of government would be workable -- I forget who first said it

What distinguished the Founders of the US, was their recognition that any position that wields power, will be lusted after by the power-mad. The only solution is to greatly limit the power of government, so as to limit the damage that the power-mad can cause

In the last 90 years, we've forgotten that important point

35 posted on 04/26/2002 7:10:58 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: Schweinhund
”hitler was made by the big money like krupp.”

My reading of German history recounts that Hitler was recruited by the German Army to infiltrate and spy on the early version of the Nazis. He did that, found he liked it, was good as a speaker and became its leader.

Over time he attracted both backing and money from numerous sources. Many Germans supported Hitler because he was strongly nationalistic and fought pitched battles with Spartacists who eventually became the Communists.

In the turmoil that followed WW 1, Germans were disenchanted with the Weimar Republic which created hyperinflation, vast unemployment and was blamed for enforcing the Treaty of Versailles. Bringing Hitler into the government was supposed to calm the German troubles.

Tragically wrong. But Germany of the 1920s and 1930s was a tragedy in the making. Nobody created Hitler except Hitler (with the unwitting help of the French and their stupid determination to make Germany pay for past humiliation). Never underestimate the stupidity of European politicians.

37 posted on 04/26/2002 7:39:46 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: Schweinhund
Your# 18).......... the nazis were neither national nor socialist. did you know that when the war was lost, hitler gave the 'nero' order? that meant destroying all industry and blowing up the mines to leave nothing to the enemy. and he ordered the whole population to kill themselves because 'who does not win is not worthy'. he was not anything more than a madman playing chess, just like stalin.

WRONG: Hitler was both a NATIONALIST and a SOCIALIST...!
He was a an EVOLUTIONIST-RACIST-ELITIST-UPPERMENCHIN-SOCIALIST holding a DARWINIST WORLDVIEW (Survival of the fitist among socialist worldviews)!
THE "real" ENEMY in his worldview was Soviet/International/Socialisms! THE "real" ENEMY was the Soviet Socialists at the Gate!!!
(America & Britain were to him NOT the "real" enemy! They were merely 'dupes' of the Internationalist Planners!
He knew the Soviet-Socialists were 'at the gate' and THAT is the ONLY REASON that he ORDERED THE "NERO" order!!!

To him, the Phoenix , then, would 'rise' again!

Socialism's Marxist/Fascism/National-Internationalism is still, "THE GOLDEN EVIL EMPIRE"!
(Now, not YET again, an 'Iron Curtain', but the fantacy/promise of a "Golden Curtain" believed only by the truely "Media-Brainwashed".

(The "Golden Curtain's" very own International Worker's UNION and Peoples' Party 'collective' slave prison.)
(be sure to pick a 'good' number, "Work Makes Free".)

/Sarcasm

39 posted on 04/26/2002 9:14:58 AM PDT by maestro
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