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To: Notwithstanding
1) We propose to send ... a set of national standards

2) We will propose ... a special process for the dismissal from the clerical state

3) While recognizing that the Code of Canon law ... we will also propose

4) We will propose an Apostolic Visitation

5) We will propose that the Bishops ... make every effort to implement

6) We propose ... a day for prayer and penance


I will be very charitable and neutral: this is weak.
12 posted on 04/25/2002 2:42:26 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko
I will be very charitable and neutral: this is weak.

Looks pretty strong to me.

15 posted on 04/25/2002 2:44:02 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Mike Fieschko
I will be very charitable and neutral: this is weak.

On the contrary, this is very strong. Do you suspect that the Pope is expecting the full meeting of the American bishops to take these proposoals seriously?

The language seems weak, but the message is loud and clear.

SD

18 posted on 04/25/2002 2:45:56 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Mike Fieschko
I agree. One real problem here is that many of these pedophile priests seem to feel that they are the agreived party. It's they who claim to have been seduced by these scheming children.

Alan Keyes has been hitting this subject very forcefully of late. I wonder what he'll have to say about this.

55 posted on 04/25/2002 4:58:31 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Mike Fieschko
I will be very charitable and neutral: this is weak.

From our standpoint, yes. In the opinion of those more knowledgeable of such things than me, this is an uncharacteristically strong statement, apparently, and is expected to elicit some real changes -- although, as I said in a previous post, I am skeptical that the more liberal dioceses (say, Mahoney's for example) will see much change except the most egregious offenders that can't stay below the radar any longer.

61 posted on 04/25/2002 6:31:58 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: Mike Fieschko
Your analysis captured the conclusion of the 'summit' - feeble, gratuitously arrogant and obtuse.

Evil will continue - will not be eliminated - unless it has been proven to be notorious [intentionally ambiguous - rape at high-noon in a downtown intersection] serial [twice, three times, ten times - who picks the threshold], predatory, sexual abuse of minors [looks like young men and women, seminarians or novices are still open season].

Business as usual, until the lawsuits dry up the wealth of the Church. I was wrong. I thought the loss of wealth would be THE motivator to burn out the nest of evil in our Church.

And parishioners should do penance for the sins of their priests? To think I had it backasswards all this time. I always thought it was the priests who had a vocation to do penance for the sins of their parishioners. Can't do one while enjoying the other.

Finally, my take on the "....reprimand individuals who spread dissent and groups which advance ambiguous approaches to pastoral care..." conclusion is to establish an offensive to gag public outrage at the evil in the Church, and a campaign to eliminate religious practices attempting to protect and continue pre-Second Vatican Council traditions.

93 posted on 04/26/2002 9:44:45 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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