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To: Doc Savage
GOOD QUESTIONS!

Here's some more:
Who was in the house with Danielle?
Who was the last person known to have seen Danielle alive ?

Who could have moved inside and outside the VD household without attacting attention of being suspicious?

Who had time to murder and then get rid of the body of Danielle?

Who has lied, and changed the story of that night's events, repeatedly?

Who has tried to control the testimony of the other main household person (Brenda),by coaching, telling her what to say, what not to say?

What other 'responsible' adult/parent did not come home until late, late at night, and was most likely in an incoherent condition to be a witness to anything?

304 posted on 04/29/2002 5:22:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
One of my posts from the UTForum...(Sorry about the length, it is very complete.)

I'm not buying the abduction scenario...

Many of our members (and apparently the District Attorney,) maintain that it was possible for DW to abduct DVD from her room, carry her downstairs, and out of the Van Dam house without rousing anyone.

Fine, let's say that it happened like that.

Here's how it would've happened, in your scenario.

Overriding logic, DW threw caution to the wind and decided to abduct Danielle...

He is somewhat intoxicated, feeling slighted by Brenda, and he believes Damon is away for the night. He sneaks into the VD residence, never noticing the alarm system that, fortunately, is not armed. Upon entering the house, he is not in any way alarmed by the blinking lights and beeping from the security box. It's kind of dark in the house, but luck is with him, and he doesn't bump into anything or stumble on his way up the unfamiliar staircase. In a brief flash of sobriety, he is suddenly and painfully aware that the house is *not* empty as he stealthily proceeds upward, step by step. (Where is Damon while this is happening?)

Soon, he finds himself on the upstairs landing, still in shadows, yet he can clearly see the pink and purple flowers on the door, identifying Danielle's room like a beacon. Wondering if this really was such a great idea, he moves slowly toward the door, extends his trembling hand, and turns the door knob.

Keeping in mind that while he is *still* intoxicated, this 50 year old, overweight man sneaks upstairs and finds Danielle's room *without awakening anyone.* He opens her door, sneaks inside, and sees Danielle sleeping in her bed.

At this point, DW has to make a decision. He knows the house is not empty, and he surely *doesn't want to awaken anyone,* so, he PICKS UP DANIELLE and puts COMPLETE TRUST in the possibility that she is like so many of our UTForum members' children, and that she won't wake up and raise a ruckus. (??) He *knew* she wouldn't wake up, of course. We can all safely rely on the fact that a sleeping child will remain asleep any time a stranger picks her up, right? Westerfield's engineer's mind would comfortably take that gamble, yes?

Now, he hefts Danielle out of bed--or does he sexually assault her now? If so, where is Damon during all this? He hears nothing? No cries from Danielle? No sounds from the bedroom? Is this when DW tears off Danielle's underwear and neatly stuffs it in the drawer? If so, did he carry her out of the house nude? Wow, he took the risk that somebody who happened to be driving by wouldn't take note of a grown man carrying a nude little body over his shoulder? Oh, wait, that's right, Danielle had the pajamas on. Nobody would notice a grown man carrying a little girl in her pajamas out of the house! And the Van Dams just coincidentally happened to have an identical pair of those pajamas to show the press! WOW!

That DW, he sure is a clever schemer, leaving nothing to chance, as befits an engineer's mentality. Of course, he is lucky just to get out of the house.

Keep in mind that he is *still* intoxicated as he carries this child--adding her 60 lbs of weight to his own--down the stairs. For this entire time, he is *still putting complete faith* in the hope that she will not wake up and raise a ruckus--OR--perhaps he has shown some foresight, and gagged her in some way. Of course, if he has gagged her, then she is surely awake now, and probably struggling, trying to cry out. Or is she dead? Bleeding? He assaulted her and killed her in her room, yet no one heard a thing AND DW left no genetic evidence behind in her bedroom? Or is she alive?

Now, he is *still* fat and drunk,has either a blissfully sleeping 60lb child in his arms, or a 60 lb gagged child who is struggling, yet he makes it all the way downstairs and out of the house without waking anyone.

Now, assuming the child he is carrying is sleeping blissfully, she somehow does *not* awaken in the cold air outside, OR else, she is gagged and struggling, yet DW boldly carries her out to either the street to his waiting SUV, or else all the way down the street to his house.

Westerfield, of course, is an intelligent man, yet this abduction belies all rational thought. Tonight, he has decided to rely on his LUCK. And lucky he is, too, becuase he has pulled it off! Now, he drives away in his SUV to where his RV is parked with either a still sleeping / or gagged / and struggling / or dead Danielle in his SUV? Which is it, still sleeping, or gagged and struggling / or dead? If she's dead, then why take her to the RV? O

Or did he take her to his house? Really? He walked across the street with a dead or else struggling or else miraculously still blissfully sleeping Danielle, in her pajamas or else nude, all the way down the street to his house, trusting that no one would drive by and see him? WOW! He IS lucky!

As I have said many times, I don't think Danielle was "abducted" from her home. As I have also said many times, this does NOT exonerate DW, it simply moves the circumstances of her disappearance elsewhere. Danielle either left the house on her own two feet, in the presence of someone she trusted or obeyed, or she was not IN the house when Brenda and her friends came home. IN MY OPINION.

Here is one other possible scenario: Perhaps DW had access to some sort of a knock-out drug. Ether, perhaps? On a rag? He would have been able to render DVD unconscious with such a substance, and thereby she would have *behaved* as a sleeping child. This makes the transfer of Danielle to the RV in the SUV easier, and it eliminates the problematic struggling, BUT it still doesn't make it much easier for DW to get into and out of the house without waking anyone, and it STILL does not explain why DW would have suddenly decided to do this. Remember, pulling off this abduction would have been a cognitive excercise on DW's part. If he was so intoxicated that he was ignoring his rational mind, it does not hold that he would also have been spry and stealthy enough to get into and out of the house without awakening anyone. If he was not intoxicated, he would NOT have rationally come to the decision that he could pull this off. There were too many obstacles, and he overcame ALL of them.

Is it more logical to suppose that DW took a HUGE risk and broke into the VD residence to abduct DVD, or that it was a crime of opportunity? Perhaps she was outside and DW saw her and pounced OR...

Perhaps she was victimized by someone else...someone closer to her both physically and emotionally, someone who would NOT have had to overcome the same kinds of obstacles that DW would have had to overcome.

Who, in fact, had the greatest opportunity of ANYONE to assail Danielle on Feb 2nd?

319 posted on 04/29/2002 5:54:53 PM PDT by FriarTom
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