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To: general_re
How, then, are we to interpret the language of the Amendment itself, WRT to the section that states "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States"? What does that mean, if it does not mean what it plainly says?

If it's so plain, please make a list of the "privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." I'd like to see a complete list of all my "privileges and immunities".

And please give a source for each item on the list, because we're going to use this list to allow a bunch of unelected judges throw out laws made by the people through the democratic process. We need a complete list and it needs to be something no one can argue about.

You realize, of course, that by making this list, you've thrown out the 9th and 10th Amendments. But you insist that you know what the "privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States" are. So go ahead and make the list.

173 posted on 04/25/2002 12:37:20 PM PDT by Rule of Law
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To: Rule of Law
If it's so plain, please make a list of the "privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." I'd like to see a complete list of all my "privileges and immunities".

Your (implied) conclusion does not follow from your premise. Even if I grant that we do not know all of the privileges and immunities available to citizens, it does not then follow that we do not know any of them. In particular, is it your contention that the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights are not among the privileges and immunities enjoyed by citizens?

174 posted on 04/25/2002 12:50:01 PM PDT by general_re
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To: Rule of Law
You realize, of course, that by making this list, you've thrown out the 9th and 10th Amendments.

Nonsense. As for the Ninth Amendment, Bingham's exposition of original intent clearly recognized it by noting that "privileges and immunities" are chiefly (rather than exhaustively) defined by the first eight amendments. As for the Tenth Amendment, the powers "reserved to the states respectively, or to the people" remain as expansive as ever -- certain things are simply denied to the former in favor of the latter.

177 posted on 04/25/2002 12:55:17 PM PDT by steve-b
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