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To: DirtyHarryY2K; pigdog

Classic. It's obvious the printout to copy is by the side of his keyboard.

Absolutely classic.

Check mate.

Pigdog, read this thread. If you still don't believe the accusations made, then you're (a) fooling yourself or (b) trying to fool us. And (b) won't work.


93 posted on 10/11/2005 1:26:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K
I HAVE read this thread - and the other 4 you linked as well.

I see that the poster Paul C. Jesup often takes a stand against what might be seen as the common belief in gender issues and that he has spent a good amount of time researching a lot of aspects of such issues and is willing to speak out about them perhaps knowing that he will be roundly attacked with many of his statements distorted.

I do not find his posts - some of which may have some factual errors in them - to be so objectionable as to believe that they condone or promote the homo/transgender life, nor that they are trying to somehow inveigle anyone into that sort of life. At the same time, he is not condemning such a life out of hand (as some of you do) but has a good bit of compassion for those involved in it - but that does not mean approbation or approval of it.

It does mean, however, that he will be endlessly attacked since he does not line up on the "side of the angels" in your views and perhaps never will. He actually makes some valid points some of which I see are misunderstood (for whatever reason).

I further believe that you read far too much into his posts and impute far too much of what you believe/disbelieve into what you think is meant. Certainly he might express himself more clearly on some of the posts and this leads to a good bit of misdirected invective.

None of the posts he has made that you have pointed me to (and I have read them all along with the responses from and to) justify the "heat of attack" that several of you have made - and will no doubt continue to do so.

Just so we're clear, I am not (a) fooling myself, (b) trying to fool you, or (c) trying to "work" anything (whcatever that might mean). Also, if you have put me on any of your ping lists, please remove me since I have no real interest in the subject, but I wanted to see what engendered such heated attacks in the thread I happened onto.

I find them unjustified ... but that's my opinion. I believe you should read and think with more charity in your hearts than with venom in your keyboards.

And BTW - I'm on no one's "side", so don't waste your time with that approach.

94 posted on 10/11/2005 4:04:15 PM PDT by pigdog
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