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To: WhiskeyPapa
From your Post #86:

I quote George Washington, and you quote Clarence Thomas?
You could quote Oliiver Wendell Holmes, or the Grinch that stole Christmas and you would still look a fool.
George Washington was on the lookout for people like you and he nailed you one hundred percent.

‘People like me?’ Now you’ve hurt my feelings. Apparently you missed my Post # 82 (I can’t imagine why – it was addressed to you ;>). Take a look, my friend: I quote George Washington – repeatedly - and Mr. Justice Thomas.

;>)

WIJG: Did you swear an oath to defend “the government of Washington and Lincoln” – or did you swear the same oath I did?

WP: By all appearances you oath is worth about as much as a pee behind a tree. I took the oath several times.
As an officer, I took this oath on August 14, 1981:
"I (state your name) swear or affirm that I will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies foreign and domestic, that I will bear truth faith and allegience to the same, and will obey the lawful orders of the officers appointed over me, and that I take this obligation without moral reservation or purpose of evasion. So help me God."

And by “all appearances” you seem to be swapping horses in mid-stream. I see no mention in the oath of “the government of Washington and Lincoln” – do you? I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States – and I know the difference between “the Constitution of the United States” and “the government.”

Damn all traitors to hell.

Given the way you have attempted to retroactively ‘rephrase’ your oath, I suggest you reconsider your words.

WIJG: And where, precisely, is [the right of the government to maintain its own existence] delegated to the federal government by the Constitution?

WP: Article 1, section 8.

There is no more mention of ‘the right of the government to maintain its own existence’ in Article I, Section 8, than there is of “the government of Washington and Lincoln” in your oath. Read Article V: “the government of Washington and Lincoln” clearly has NO “right simply to maintain its own existance” if “three fourths of the several States” should decide otherwise. According to the United States Constitution, the very existence of the federal government is completely dependent upon the continued good will of (guess what? ;>) the States...

;>)

149 posted on 04/29/2002 6:20:37 PM PDT by Who is John Galt?
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To: Who is John Galt?
There is no more mention of ‘the right of the government to maintain its own existence’ in Article I, Section 8, than there is of “the government of Washington and Lincoln” in your oath.

And yet, it has done so.

Walt

152 posted on 04/30/2002 1:25:29 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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