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What Is The Real Story Around The Church Of Nativity?
The Holy Land Christian Ecumenical Foundation ^ | 22-Apr-02 | Ghassan Andoni

Posted on 04/24/2002 5:11:13 AM PDT by lepraerea

What Is The Real Story Around The Church Of Nativity? 22-Apr-02 Ghassan Andoni

It is amazing how much one can twist facts. But more amazing is how much people can be influenced by twisted facts. In relation to the Church of Nativity, two stories are being widely circulated.

The Israeli story: a large group of armed "terrorists" entered the Church of Nativity. They took dozens of civilians including Christian priests and monks as hostages and are using them as human shields to launch attacks on the Israeli army, which is surrounding the place. Therefore, Israel is attempting to rescue the hostages and capture the "terrorists".

The Palestinian story: As the Israeli army invaded Bethlehem and Israeli tanks approached Manger Square, around 240 Palestinians including some armed Palestinians entered the Church seeking a safe shelter. Armed Palestinians laid down their arms and are seeking the protection of the Christian clergy inside the church.

Who are the people inside the church?

All resources from inside the church including Father Ibrahim Faltas, Christian Lawyer Tony Salman, and the governor of Bethlehem Mohammad Almadani confirmed repeatedly that: the vast majority of the people inside are innocent civilians who ran into the church to save their lives. The armed Palestinians who entered the church were mostly members of Palestinian Authority tourism Police, policemen from the adjacent Palestinian police station, and some Palestinians who decided to fight against the Israeli invasion of their city.

The Vatican repeatedly announced that all people inside the church are non-engaged and only seeking a shelter that the church is welling to provide. The Vatican repeatedly affirmed that there is no hostage-taking situation.

As the siege of the church continued, Israel employed a continued pressure to force the people inside the church to surrender. Some methods used are:

Preventing any supplies of food. Currently people inside the church are starving.

Prevent evacuate dead bodies from inside the church. (Two bodies are still inside)

Prevent any medical help for scores of injured people (nuns are dealing with the situation with primitive first aid means)

Positioning snipers all over the place and shooting at any moving target. So far two people were killed inside the church and two more wounded including an Armenian Priest.

Shooting randomly inside the church. This random shooting resulted in a fire that destroyed three rooms inside the church. A Palestinian was shoot dead by a sniper while attempting to extinguish the fire.

Throwing rounds of sound grenades into and around the church. This is going on all daytime and especially at night.

Transmitting, through loudspeakers, sounds that are beyond the threshold of pain into the church.

Attempted twice to burst into the church from its eastern entrance. In one attempt they destroyed one of the church gates using explosives.

So far, and aside from the suffering of people inside the church, considerable damage have been done to the church itself. With the little protest and concern from the side of the Christians all over the world and from the side of the international community, it is likely that Israel will upgrade its assault and might cause more substantial damage.

All attempts to negotiate a settlement to this situation failed. Israel insists on either complete surrender without conditions or a deportation outside the country. They are refusing the involvement of any third party in such efforts.

It is extremely worrying that with the increased pressure on Israel to leave the PA areas, Israel might attack the church in an attempt to kill or arrest people inside. It can happen, it might result in a massacre taking place inside the church, and it might destroy the Church. Something urgent must be done to prevent this from happening.

Ghassan Andoni (a Christian who lives 100 meters away from the Church of Nativity)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: church; israel; middleeast; nativity; pope
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To: laconas
All Muslims do is pretend to honor his NAME while rejecting every word he ever said, and every word the Bible says about him. . . They say he was never crucified, never died for us, was NOT the son of God, say he is coming back to fight alongside the Muslims and help kill off the Christians. Say Pilate crucified a look-alike in a scam that Jesus was in on.

You are trying to fool the ignorant, and we are on to you, and you ought to be ashamed.

61 posted on 04/25/2002 11:48:45 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: All
Every word I said and much more, has been on standard Islamic sites in the last year. In fact, they are common knowledge among all who have investigated what Muslims say about Jesus.

Muslim "scholars" have even attempted to make up stories about where Jesus went, such as Kashmir, black Africa, Ethiopia, etc. after his feigned "death"-- and written books on the subject.

Every word I wrote is the honest truth, and far from the limits of what I COULD have written.

Once again, you are trying to exploit widespread ignorance of Islam in order to whitewash it, and you do not like it when I expose its seamier side.

Their "Jesus" has nothing in common with the one in the NT, except his name and that of his mother.

And in Koran and Hadith, they keep calling him "the son of Mary"-- a great disgrace in Araby since a man whose name makes him the son of a Woman, is thus presumably a bastard and illegitimate. Muhammad does this on his own, without a shred of backup in Bible, Christian or even rabbinic/Talmudic Jewish tradition that He was ever called that even later, much less in His own day.

Having pretended outwardly to honor Him so as to take in the gullible, like you are trying to do, Muhamnmad denies the truth of every word Jesus said, insists on the falsity of every claim he made, such as being the Son of God and Messiah...calls him in effect a bastard, denies he was ever put on the cross, says he was partying atop the Mount of Joy with his disciples, while Pilate was crucifying a look-alike on private property and not letting anyone closely approach...while the NT says it was directly on the main public road into the city and was seen by all...

It is you, not I, that is fabricating things and trying to play upon the widespread lack of info in the West and US about what Islam actually is and teaches.

As far as your epithet, I am reporting abuse.

63 posted on 04/26/2002 12:12:37 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: FloridaCracker
Do you think that Christians should kill Arabs who flee from the Israel army and hide in a church? And should the Christians have killed the Jews who hid in the churches to flee the German army?

Your pretty much an idiot, comparing the arabs in Israel to the jews in WW2.

The jews were NOT trying to wipe out the germans.

64 posted on 04/26/2002 12:36:45 AM PDT by philetus
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To: crystalk
Thank you for educating anyone who might have blindly believed Laconas' evil slander against Jews. Sometimes I am still shocked at their total disregard for honesty. It really is stunning.
65 posted on 04/26/2002 1:19:44 AM PDT by Goldsters
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To: philetus
I don't think the truth matters to the cracker. Seriously.
66 posted on 04/26/2002 1:21:13 AM PDT by Goldsters
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