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These are the changes that LePen would make if elected president of France [NYT]
NYT, from Le Pen's web site ^ | April 23, 2002 | NYT, from Le Pen's web site

Posted on 04/23/2002 1:20:15 PM PDT by summer

These are the changes that Jean-Marie Le Pen would seek to make if elected president of France, according to his campaign web site, www.lepen.tv :

o Outlaw abortion and end official recognition of same-sex unions.

o Develop programs to increase the birth rate and pay benefits to women who stay at home with their children.

o End legal immigration.

o Deport illegal immigrants and eliminate dual nationality.

o Give French citizens priority for all jobs and public housing; create a separate medical benefits system for foreigners working in France, so that French tax money would not be used for foreigners' care.

o Allow only French citizens to teach in French schools.

o Reinstitute morality classes; require student participation in patriotic events and holidays.

o Outlaw the wearing of yarmulkes and Muslim headscarves in schools.

o Create 200,000 new prison beds.

o Expand and give new rights to the police force.


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To: Maceman
But this isn't the U.S.. It's France. They have a traditionally stronger government. Their right wing doesn't have our right-libertarian leaning. It's totally different, and a lot of it is just what France needs.
141 posted on 04/23/2002 5:33:29 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier
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To: Bogey78O
Good point.
142 posted on 04/23/2002 5:33:54 PM PDT by summer
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To: Maceman
"Are there really Freepers who would support such a program? Would you support a politician in the US who advocated paying mothers to stay home and raise babies?...

Yes, in a heartbeat, as long as the woman was married to a man. I believe Bush advocates this. At least, I sincerely hope so.

Children raised at home, by "stay-at-home" moms are smarter, less likely to do drugs, less likely to commit suicide, and less likely to do jail time. It's been proven many times over the past few years.

Moms raising children at home, with a Dad supporting them all, WORKS best over all.I am in favor of anything that raises kids to think for themselves, and produce, and not be a freeloader parasite on society.

143 posted on 04/23/2002 6:15:16 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: rmlew
Its still not right to pay benefits, taken at gunpoint from productive members of the society, to give to prolific reproducers. I would say that the productive members of the society should be allowed to keep what they have earned and use it to provide for their offspring.

If LePen said that he would make a series of programs designed to encourage more French to have more children by changing the mindset in the country, then, I could agree with that.

I would not require student participation in patriotic events and holidays. I would instead encourage student participation.

You are right. I do not know what police powers French police currently have. But police powers are usually taken from people's rights.

144 posted on 04/23/2002 6:18:24 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: E Rocc
You should list the similarities between Le Pen and Duke. You can't and won't do it. You just want to save your own bigoted a-- by smearing someone else without evidence.
145 posted on 04/23/2002 6:25:30 PM PDT by Blake#1
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To: MonroeDNA
Moms raising children at home, with a Dad supporting them all, WORKS best over all.I am in favor of anything that raises kids to think for themselves, and produce, and not be a freeloader parasite on society.

That's very nice, but the question was directed to the issue of a government dole (thus cutting Dad out of the picture and encouraging them to be freeloader parasites).

146 posted on 04/23/2002 6:27:43 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: The Scorpion King
From now on the French will surrender by e-mail.

Low blow! ;-)

147 posted on 04/23/2002 6:31:44 PM PDT by rdb3
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148 posted on 04/23/2002 6:32:07 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: summer
Go Le Pen. Finally, a Frenchman who is not a ***sy.
149 posted on 04/23/2002 7:01:40 PM PDT by nonliberal
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To: summer
And, his idea to pay women to STAY HOME and raise kids is what LIBERALS in this country have proposed...

I don't necessarily agree with this idea, but I do think it is better than having both parents work.

Tuor

150 posted on 04/23/2002 7:08:29 PM PDT by Tuor
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To: E Rocc
Personally, I hope Chirac squashes him like the bug that he is.

What, *specificly*, is it about him you don't like? Which policies? His personality? What?

It's okay not to like him and want to see Le Pen lose, but it would be nice if there were reasons behind such a stance that we could discuss.

Tuor

151 posted on 04/23/2002 7:23:31 PM PDT by Tuor
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To: knighthawk
What do you mean, too far to the right for comfort? Not possible! :)
152 posted on 04/23/2002 7:28:47 PM PDT by roachie
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To: summer
o Reinstitute morality classes; require student participation in patriotic events and holidays.

This is a plank that seems to have upset a lot of people here on FR. I'd like to make a few observations and comments about it.

First of all, when I was a wee lad here in the good ole US of A, we had all sort of patriotic and religious holidays which we did things for in class (this is public school, BTW). Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, Lincoln and Washington's birthdays, and so forth. We learned about the importance of these holidays and people and in so doing, learned important lessons about the things that made us distinctly American. If this is the sort of thing that Le Pen has in mind, then I agree with him as to its necessity.

Morality classes: just how would they be constituted? Would they be classes in which ethics and western morals were discussed and the philosophies which form the underpinning to Western Civilization examined? Or would they be mere indoctrination classes where the student sits and is required to learn lessons by rote, never questioning what they are taught? I would support the former, but not the latter. I suspect most here on FR would, too.

Tuor

153 posted on 04/23/2002 8:12:41 PM PDT by Tuor
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I guess if we gotta support the Jews in the Middle East we gotta support them in France, oui?

Le Pen Worries French Jews
Tue Apr 23, 9:14 AM ET
By PAMELA SAMPSON, Associated Press Writer

PARIS (AP) - The strong showing by far-right leader Jean-Marie Le Pen in the presidential qualifying round came as an unwelcome shock to many French Jews in a country where authorities say anti-Semitic attacks are at their highest level since World War II.

The vast majority of Jews shunned Le Pen at the polls Sunday, when he unexpectedly placed second and advanced to a runoff against incumbent Jacques Chirac, said Emmanuel Weintraub, spokesman for the Representative Council of French Jewish Groups in Paris.

"We have always been dead against Le Pen in the Jewish community, and we are not going to change," he said.

Le Pen, who has been accused of bigotry and anti-Semitism throughout his long political career, became notorious among Jews 15 years ago when he called Nazi gas chambers "a detail in World War II history."

The Union of Jewish Student of France announced it was organizing an anti-Le Pen rally in Paris next Sunday to express opposition to the themes he is associated with, primarily "intolerance, anti-Semitism and xenophobia."

Le Pen's triumph followed a wave of anti-Semitic attacks in Europe and particularly France, where violence against Jews has increased during 19 months of Israeli-Palestinian fighting and flared further amid Israel's recent West Bank offensive.

Muslim youths from immigrant families, themselves targets of Le Pen, have been blamed for much of the violence.

Leaders of the World Jewish Congress opened an emergency meeting Monday in Brussels, Belgium to assess the troubling trend of anti-Semitic attacks across Europe.

The congress hopes to wrap up the special session Tuesday with a call to European political leaders for improved protection and stronger support for Jewish communities, officials said.

Le Pen is not expected to beat Chirac in the May 5 runoff, but his strong showing — 16.8 percent of the votes cast — stoked the ongoing debate among French Jews over whether they are safe.

"A Chirac victory against Le Pen, influenced by the xenophobic right, could leave the Jewish community trapped between Muslim extremists and a revitalized, anti-Semitic extreme right," said Shimon Samuels of the Simon Weisenthal Center in Paris.

"Under such conditions, more and more French Jews will see their future elsewhere," Samuels said.

About 1,200 Jews leave France for Israel every year, and the Jewish state recently has stepped up efforts to persuade them to come. But Weintraub said most Jews here are committed French citizens and would stay put.

Some Jews even voted for Le Pen, whose tough-on-crime platform struck a chord in a nation where violent crime shot up 10 percent last year.

"There are Jews who voted for Le Pen, and they did it on the same grounds as any other Frenchman who is afraid of being robbed, of being mugged," Weintraub said.

Among the few Jews who voted for Le Pen, Weintraub said he believes "a very small minority" did so as an expression of anger over the upsurge in attacks on Jewish sites in the past year and a half.

Jewish leaders say disaffected youths from the France's large immigrant Muslim population are largely to blame, and those few Jewish votes that Le Pen got could be a way of lashing back, Weintraub said.

Le Pen is a virulent opponent of immigration, particularly from the Muslim countries in North Africa, and he blames immigrants for the soaring crime rate.

"This push, this constant foreign immigration will — if a barrier is not erected — eventually submerge our country, making it disappear," Le Pen said Monday.

In comments to reporters, Le Pen described himself as the "candidate of the French people" and said they had voted for him to overturn the political system.

As thousands of protesters took to the streets across France to denounce his success, Le Pen appealed for calm. "Change must be carried out peacefully," he said.

154 posted on 04/23/2002 8:14:11 PM PDT by shockjock
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To: summer
...his position on that issue is in fact the liberal position in this country. For a very different reason though - Le Pen's is to encourage and increase native French populace - not leftist do-gooder politics.
155 posted on 04/23/2002 8:15:00 PM PDT by mikeIII
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To: summer
"Reinstitute morality classes;..."

How about setting up a Ministry of Virtue and Vice?

".........Yeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh! Meet the new boss, same as the old boss!"

Admirer of The Classics, Durham, NC

156 posted on 04/23/2002 8:24:14 PM PDT by Mark Bahner
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To: Malcolm
Le Pen will not win, but it's fun to see the leftists in agony.....

Yes --it's great. The leftists had turned against the Jews --- even in Washingon DC they thought they were very chic protesting and demonstrating their solidarity with Palestinians and calling for the end of Israel. Then Le Pen comes in second and the leftists start criticizing him for being anti-Jew. Suddenly the leftists who didn't think the suicide bombings were a big deal are pointing out a remark Le Pen made about the Holocaust being a detail in history.

157 posted on 04/23/2002 10:02:00 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: summer
And, his idea to pay women to STAY HOME and raise kids is what LIBERALS in this country have proposed...

Liberals, though, are mainly interested in poor and unmarried women, rather than women who are married to productive husbands.

158 posted on 04/23/2002 10:05:02 PM PDT by supercat
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To: summer
Looks like he ran it through BabelFish, the web-based translator. It usually generates barely comprehendable documents like that.
159 posted on 04/24/2002 6:13:53 AM PDT by Exnihilo
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To: kidd
If I equate Le Pen/Muslims with Duke/Blacks, then I can see why you would think that he is like David Duke. The difference is that American blacks are part of American culture while Algerian Muslims have chosen to live separate from French culture. David Duke is anti-American because blacks are definitly American. Algerians routinely boo the playing of the French national anthem. Algerian Muslims are violent towards French Jews. Algerian Muslims don't want to be French.

Do you have other information about Le Pen?

Are French Jews part of French culture? Le Pen doesn't have much good to say about them either.

-Eric

160 posted on 04/24/2002 9:38:47 AM PDT by E Rocc
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