[cardinal4]

A rehash of an earlier post. I think the idea of a sex workshop like this is probably immoral, but the idea of a government trying to regulate morality has problems,too. Remember the Volstead act?

[FreedominJesusChrist]

The government can regulate obscenity.

[cardinal4]

More evidence of the decline of Western Civilization,and the governments attempt to forstall it legislatively.

[Dave S]

I agree. The state of Missouri has enough problems right now that going after this "Beat Me in St. Louis" is a ridiculous waste of time and resources.

Loudon ought to quit giving it free publicity. Maybe if he was a little more focused he could have gotten his application in on time to run for County Executive of St. Louis county. The fool waited till the last day and then failed to file when his pregnant wife went into labor.

[FreeTally]

The resolution also condemns the Howard Johnson hotel chain for allowing the event to be held at a St. Louis facility.

Ooooohhhh, scary. Tax money at work. Thanks, you idiots.

Bottom line: Howard Johnson's wants to allow it. Government could not convince them not too. Government tries to find anything in the (specious)law to say they can't, and then spends money to "pass a resolution" condemning a private property owner. Just another example of government out of control.

[workamania]

To all you people that say that the government shouldn't legislate morals, every law they pass is based on morals. Think about it.

[billbears]

Are you suggesting the states don't have the right to legislate morality within their borders? The Volstead Act or Prohibition was at the federal level, this is at the state level. Well within his Constitutional grounds to do so and I for one applaud him for doing it

[Rebelbase]

Whats wrong with a lecture about "The proper ways to spank your partner?" or, "Leather Fetishes?" There is nothing immoral about it.

Now, the percived notion that the participants are going to be engaging in public sex acts is what is driving this local yokel to the podium in condemnation.

"Percieved" is the key word. NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. And the bizzare perversions that occur behind the close doors of the particpants motel rooms is none of the Govt's business anyway.

Now if the party moves into the parking lot and these people hold a public orgy, then by all means, lock them up for violating the LAWS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS!

[weegee]

Calling it a "workshop" concedes the argument. It's a swingers' ball. Questions arise such as, is everyone working for free or are some of the participants prostitutes?

Are the sex acts confined to the bedrooms or do they spill over to the pool and common areas (where other guests would be exposed to fluids and witnessing the acts)?

Does the jurisdiction permit sex dungeons and swingers nightclubs? Some swinger social nightclubs do not permit sex to occur on the property (although reports come in of people having sex in the parking lot in their cars).

These are the questions that need to be asked of prosecutors. As I say, calling this a "workshop" allows the banner of an educational seminar to blur the real purpose of the weekend. Early hardcore films purported to be an expose of the changing sex laws in Europe (with titles like "Pornography In Denmark"). The courts put out the notion that obscenity has "no redeeming social value" so the hucksters make it "educational".

The gatherings in SF and DC this past weekend were called antiwar protests but they were anything but if you bothered to watch. The language used defines an argument. Don't start yourself out in a losing position having to knock down straw man arguments.

[Khepera]

but the idea of a government trying to regulate morality has problems,too

Remember Sex in public is against the law. So is assault. Hitting another is assult and even if that person agrees to it the police are obliged to arrest the person doing the hitting. That is why if your husband or wife beats you they get arrested even if you do not want them to be arrested.