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Just a few questions. How do we know this? What were the ideas that became part of the Mass?

Is it possible some of their suggestions were consistent with ideas already held by those responsible for the Liturgy?

Do you mean were the litugical reformers of one mind with their non-Catholic friends? Yes. I usually don't use the missalette. I kept wondering why I was always stumbling over a few words in the Communion prayer said just before we take Communion. You know the prayer:

Lord I am not worthy to recieve you, but only say the word and I shall be healed.

I looked at the missalette years after Vatican II. They demoted our 'sins' to a collective 'sin'. And, they changed the original, "but only say the word and my SOUL shall be healed". The centurian who coined that prayer was not asking for a healing of his body, which is inferred, but rather a healing of the soul. Now, this may not seem like much, but that's the point. The changes were subtle enough to go unnoticed. Our Mass which had been with us for centuries upon centuries was given a whitewash, still holy though, but not nearly as beautiful.

I borrowed a book from a friend years ago which was written around the time of the English Reformation. It detailed what they did to Catholic Churches to take away their specific Catholicism, when they were confiscated by the Protestants. It was amazing how similar those changes were to what happened after Vatican II. So, it seems they already had a blueprint on what changes to make.

>Do you mean were the litugical reformers of one mind with their non-Catholic friends? Yes.>

I think this is a very important point. Most Catholics do not know about the heavy influence of Protestants within the Catholic Church. Most of the influence I know about comes via the Charismatic Movement and the leadership which has been consistantly involved with these Protestant Pentecostals since 1967. Its interesting to note that Cardinal Suenens, one of the most liberal Vatican II reformers, was the first champion of what was then called Catholic Pentecostalism. Fr. John Hardon said that if it were not for Cardinal Suenens Pentecostalism in the Church would not have lasted as long as it has.

This is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. Happy are those who are called to his supper.

Lord I am not worthy to recieve you, but only say the word and I shall be healed.

I looked at the missalette years after Vatican II. They demoted our 'sins' to a collective 'sin'.

I think you might be reading a bit much here. "Sin" is a word that can work either singular or plural. There is no confusion in my mind here anyway, that there is only one sin in the world.

And, they changed the original, "but only say the word and my SOUL shall be healed". The centurian who coined that prayer was not asking for a healing of his body, which is inferred, but rather a healing of the soul. Now, this may not seem like much, but that's the point. The changes were subtle enough to go unnoticed. Our Mass which had been with us for centuries upon centuries was given a whitewash, still holy though, but not nearly as beautiful.

While I am no fan of ICEL and their infidelity to the Latin, I find this objection of yours amusing as well. Nobody is imagining that we are praying at this moment for our bodies to be healed. LOL