[clamper1797]

Did we sign a surrender? ...
are we or were we occupied by the North Vietnamese?
Do we now speak Vietnamese?
Do we all now live in communes?
Is our government now overseen by the Vietnamese?
We also pulled out of Bosnia (kinda) Does that mean we lost that "war" too. Losing a war requires surrender. If we wanted too we could have turned North Vietnam into a glass parking lot. Voluntarily pulling out of a conflict is not "losing" a war

[ncson]

What clamper said. We just let the Vietnamese people have what they evidently wanted - Communist tyranny.

[BradyLS]

Did we sign a surrender? ...

No surrender document was signed, but few doubt the rights we've slowly been surrendering to the government (and snail darters, and spotted owls...) in the names of "security" and "the environment."