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To: history_matters
One thing that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense about libs targeting celibacy as the main issue (aside from the fact that homosexuals would not seek wives) is that marriage, as it exists in our society today, does not necessarily solve the sexual drama. Just look at all the divorces and infidelity. Also...if celibate men supposedly have a stronger tendency toward pedophilia or teenophilia (as claimed by libs), then we should see more cases of divorced, unmarried men assaulting male teenagers. Duh... It would also seem to follow (in that illogic) that unmarried young men would be seeking sex from male teenagers (rather than from females). One is left with the argument that only "celibate" Catholic priests are the class of sex-starved adult males who seek sex from male teenagers. And as Ann Coulter ironically pointed out some time ago in "Should Gay Priests Adopt?", this seems to frame the thesis that Catholicism causes sodomy! [???] That the current problems are associated with homosexual behavior BY HOMOSEXUALS really ought to be clear by now.
240 posted on 04/22/2002 12:13:59 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
One is left with the argument that only "celibate" Catholic priests are the class of sex-starved adult males who seek sex from male teenagers.
The arguments you present and defeat are all straw-man arguments. The arguments that form a nexus between mandatory celibacy and ephebophilia in the diocesan priesthood are based on the former's having restricted the pool of otherwise qualified heterosexuals as well as having offered a respectable cover to the sexually confused and underdeveloped, thus contributing to -- not causing -- the hyperincidence of homosexuals and perverts within the diocesan system, which skewed demographic has in turn contributed both to the hyperincidence of sexual abuse of teenage boys and pederasty. Please note that these are not argument based on simple cause and effect but arguments based on having provided the right conditions for sexual immorality to flourish.

Moreover, absent the prerequisite of mandatory celibacy for the diocesan priesthood, sexual immorality in the diocesan priesthood would simply be a matter of individual responsibility and discipline; however, to the extent that the institutional church has made mandantory celibacy a prerequisite, which prerequisite has in turn contributed to the hyperincidence of sexual immorality in the diocesan priesthood, the sexual sins of a minority redound to the institutional church itself and undermine the authority and respect of the majority of diocesan priests who serve us so well in our parishes and schools.

247 posted on 04/22/2002 12:54:10 PM PDT by eastsider
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