[pgkdan]

now IF all the assaults, as some have asserted, happened in the 60s,70's, etc.. I don't recall any huge assault by the liberals on celibacy then.

He's a priest...talking about liberals in the Church. There has been a constant attack against celibacy and the all male Priesthood ever since Vatican II.

[Zipporah]

Uh.. of course I have heard of the sexual revolution in the 60s DUH.. my point being.. an organized effort if you believe there is one, has taken place in the last decade or so..

I know several priests personally that have left the priesthood and I also know two nuns, as well, who left their orders to be married and raise families.